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drmini in aust

Post subject: Star drive thingys for 1100S cams (now made for slot drive)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:12 pm

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I was seriously looking at costs to get some of these 3 cornered jiggers made locally.
However I found out yesterday that Mini Spares UK are ceasing manufacture of the spline drive oil pumps that use them.
So, I guess now it's rather pointless and would be a waste of (my) money. :cry:

Already, Cooper S oil pumps are NLA. The only 1275 pumps available soon will be the slot drive ones used in A+ motors. It is possible to adapt a pin drive or star drive cam to suit, by TIG welding a slotted adaptor into the back of the camshaft.
Easier alternative- get a slot drive cam from Brickworx or Miniimports. :wink:

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justminis

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:12 am

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what about having the three cornered job made to drive the slot drive pump? The slot be easier/cheaper to make than the splines?? Is it worth getting a revised estimate Kev?

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:23 am

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Wow, what else do I need to get before they stop making them? Big end bearings?

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:23 pm

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justminis wrote:

what about having the three cornered job made to drive the slot drive pump? The slot be easier/cheaper to make than the splines?? Is it worth getting a revised estimate Kev?

There's no need to make them 3 cornered Steve, just turn a steel plug up, slot the centre with a milling cutter and TIG weld it into the star drive cam where the lug holes are. Then it can't fall out either, if you manage to pull the cam.
That's how GR does it. I might make some like that... :wink:

<edit> actually if I get them `3 cornered' laser cut, they could cut the slot too. Might be worth a look.... :wink:

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jbeenz

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:51 pm

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in my 998 motor, i have fitted a star drive spindle to an a+ drive smallbore pump, it all fits tight and nice, will see how it goes :lol:

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justminis

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:53 pm

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drmini in aust wrote:

actually if I get them `3 cornered' laser cut, they could cut the slot too. Might we worth a look.... :wink:

yes please, the last billet cam I bought was only available in spider drive :cry:

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Karcraft

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:37 pm

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The spyder drive pumps are still being manufactured. We have 100 avail ex stk and since we deal direct with the manufacturer we are aware of no plans to cease production.

Hope this helps.

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:40 pm

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Thanks, that helps a lot.

(is that you Greg?)

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Karcraft

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:42 pm

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yes it is

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:48 pm

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Karcraft wrote:

yes it is

Hi Greg, I used to now you from Southern Sporting. (and back as far as Fairfiled Leyland)

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:00 pm

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Greg, are the spider drive things still available? It's a bit pointless getting these pumps if not. The spiders wear out the splines eventually.
BTW my information came from UK, this week. :wink:

How's your supply of 1275 slot drive pumps, last week I had to get one from Melbourne... :cry:

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Karcraft

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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:47 am

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Hi Kevin - have checked all our sources in the UK and no one has them.

There are still many engines that just req a replacement pump - we sell 100's a year of these pumps.

Re 1275 slot drive pumps - plenty avail ex stk.

In the last 10 days we have had a BIG shipment of various engine parts arrive inc oil pumps.

We now regularly bring in a 20 foot container a month of new parts to cover the many brands of English vehicles we cater for.

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Hi Morris 1100

You certainly go back a long way !
It will be 30 years next March since I / Karcraft started trading.

Regards Greg

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:25 pm

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Update- progress.
Star is being made to adapt 1100S cam to slot drive Metro pump.
CAD design done, next week I'll have the 1st off, laser-cut sample.

Note these spiders can also be remachined to adapt a pin drive cam to a slot drive pump, but star would need TIG welding into the cam. :wink:

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Convertible Mini

Post subject: Spider pump drive thingie !

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:02 am

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Looks like I will be Auctioning off a few of these I have a boxfull !! What woud you think be a fair price for one Kev ?

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:50 am

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