does anyone have any tips on how to make old original vinyl nice and soft? is there any products out there that are recomennded?

The best thing to do to old Vinyl is replace it with new stuff that looks the same. It is bound to last longer stuff made these days.

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If you're talking about the original 850 trim vynil try the megulars vynil treatment/conditioner stuff (can't think of it's proper name but Steve E put me onto it and it works wonders for seoftening it up) from a good auto place .

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I have been told by a trimmer that old vinyl that has been 'sun burnt' will never be soft again. If your vinyl has had a bit too much sun..... you can't do anything really except replace it.

Turtle Wax Vinyl Reconditioner and Protectant works very well.

thanks guys. i have just been collecting a whole bunch of 850 vinyl for my restoration. i have had great luck trying to get enough together to trim my car. all i want to do is soften it up a bit. it is far from hard and cracking but i figure it could be a little bit softer if possible. all the useable stuff i have is still nice and rich in colour.