how much can you save? the cost is $57 per year. thats it. greenslip included.

let me see....get out calculator......saving against $400 is um o yeah $343 that i can spend on bits for it and the other one and tools etc.

if i ever get it to the point that like you i want to drive it every day, i'll just get full rego. At the moment it spends more time being repaired, but if it is going, i'm able to use it.

worth it for me.
and as far as track days go, you can just go to the wakefield park no limits days if you wanted too.

who is the insurance with? mines with shannons who appreciate the whole historic/modified car thing.
michael

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From the ANDRA website:

ANDRA was delegated by the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport as the governing body of drag racing in Australia, and for many years remained the only Australian motor sport discipline operating independently. The ANDRA National Control Council was made up of six Division Directors, elected by the members in each Division, and three representatives of the Australian Drag Racing Promoters Association. That structure survives today and the co-operation between tracks and racers at the highest levels of the sport’s administration remains one of the sport’s strengths.

So there is a connection there but not in the way I thought! (does that make sense?)

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hmmmm think less enjoy more good plan... so you got keys? you got petrol?? whats to think about just drive.. life would be great if it was that simple. its the sueing laws that kill all the fun sueing= liability=insurance= beaurocrats (and bad spelling)= red tape and bull faeces..

So join the MDC or start a chapter on the Cold Toast.....why do you have this angst against Clubs????

Sorry DD....I might have misread what you were trying to get across there....me just sticking up for Mini Car Clubs that DO do the right thing by its memebers....ACT Mini CC is one of those AFAIK.

The Concessional Registration Scheme dabate is interesting, agree with most of what has been said except to add that the Mini was one of THE most modified vehicles in the period!! (body and engine - A Series based mods, turbo and super charged etc)

I also agree that Starlet/Suzi powered devices are not in the spirit of Historic or Concesssional Registration Scheme as explained above. The fun factor would be well worth the cost of full registration anways....love to know what the Insurance companies charge for these though

Just another point, the Councils of Car Clubs around Australia are currently working out the details and discussing SEASONAL REGISTRATION which acknowledges that enthusiasts tend to bring there cars out when its sunny and may have multiple cars anyway that need exercising.

A similar scheme operates in the USA where you can have multiple cars that you drive one at a time (Duuuurrrhh) by transferring a tax disk (whatever). You obviously need to declare all the cars affected in your garage.

There is also a movement to try and standardise CRS across Australia because in the past vehicles have been challenged on their way to interstate shows or road rally's etc

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$343/356 days in a year.96c a day. I reckon doing an engine coversion would save you this much in fuel per year.

I wouldn't have thought that I would have held an opinion on this before reading the topic but now having read it I do. With this talk about period modifications.

I don't know if this will come out right but i'll try. Let's say 13sec, as he's been the chosen topic, wishes to switch his car to HRS rego to minimise costs. Those who make the decision say "well it's not a period modification so no you can't get HRS rego". I'm stating the obvious here but the only reason it wasn't done then is there hadn't been advances in technology. Simple as that. They were barstarising them then no less than they are now. There just wasn't the same options as there is now. I could see this easily turning into the chicken and the egg arguement.

Will Brad need to wait 30 years before he can apply for HRS rego and then justify it as a periodic mod? It's front wheel drive. It has no more capacity than a mini in that 'period'. Actually less than the modded ones.

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I reckon that people in this argument get lost and start talking about what is "fair" and "just" and "reasonable". The real question however is what the law says and if it is very specific in this case with past cases (such as the right of the RTA to decide on the exact interpretation of "period" and clubs being deregistered because of particular breaches etc) clearly established than thats it. Whatever appears to us the enthusiasts as reasonable is absolutely irrelevant if it stands against the spirit of the statute. Fairness is not an issue here, the only issue is the intent of the legislator and the agency in charge (RTA).

just remember that club plates is not about cheap rego, it is about preserving historical cars. Mini's are only one of many cars that use the scheme. It is about historical cars. granted 13secs car is and will be a historical car as he is one of the first to do such a conversion, but that dosen't mean that it is a car that is eligible on the scheme. He may be eligble under hot rods scheme, but there rules are different again. It is all about what you could do 30 years ago and if you can prove it was done. Not really the issue as 13 sec would never put his car on club plates, thats not what he built it for.

Cheers

Aaron

well said aaron, 100% right.

I would never try to get my car on club plates, as you said it was never built for that, it would go against everything that scheme is setup for. Basically mine is a toyota now, with a mini shell, only thing it has in common with the rules for club plates is its age, but as you guys have said id be better of going with a hotrod club.

I think that if i went a late model A series engine conversion (efi) then went for club rego and got nocked back i would have an argument. It is technically still original except it would be modified to meet todays pollution standards

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the only thing that would stop a late model engine going in, and i am only speculating, is that of an injection system model, a carb model would be fine. but injection i would think isn't 30 years old for mini's. easy fixed though, throw a carb on it as everyone keeps saying you get more power from a carb than an injection system.

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Naaaaarrrrttttt, stooooopppppp, rewind!!!

Say after me....my car is a Mini, my car is a Mini, my car is a Mini

Say after me....man this A Series has some grunt!...and smooth!!

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Ya got that right!! spot on.....

BTW racers (in the period) used a variety of engines including a Jaguar 6 with two pots lopped off and (takes a deep breath) a Fraud Block from Populars or Anglias - all to good effect.

AFAIK it is not so much that you can prove it was a period mod it is whether the RTA and clubs can be convinced that it is acceptable, will not draw attention or scrutiny from authorities, other car clubs or Council of Car Clubs and is in the spirit of the scheme. So largely self regulated.

To me and a bunch of others I have discussed it with that means fairly STANDARD appearance overall (exceptions here are say Mag Wheels as a period mod available at the time but definately NOT concerned about hose clamps!! ).

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We are all mini nuts, I'll let you know how conditional rego has helped me with me mini obsession.

Concessional rego allows me to have a concours car which since restoration has covered 20 000 or so miles in the two years, the car does get driven interstate with some of the various clubs I belong to and I drive it as often as possible. It costs me 53 bucks for rego including green slip and 46 bucks a year to insure for over $10 000.

This allows me to own my Austin super deluxe, neat car not concours but same deal.

Then having some spare cash I bought a Riley Elf which is on full rego with shannons vintage insurance no KM limit insured for over $12 000 for an extremely reduced price and given me more cash to do a nut and bolt restoration of my black mini K panel van unfinished but already insured for over $7 000.

All up conditional rego allows me to have a fleet of minis and it costs me just over $30 a month to insure the lot for near $50 000.

Lucky for me I now have a few more spare dollars thanks to Conditional registration to add my next project to the fleet, a twin cam something or other as I personally lke the right hose clips on MY concours cars, but I also appretaite the hard work that goes into modified cars and now how to have which entirely possible without changing any rules or breaking and laws.

8000 per year = 16000 ...you have obviously got prior permission to attend the interstate meetings and that fact is recorded in your Log Book.

don't answer...you don't have to....just want to give others the mail

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