Must confess to having "dobbed" someone in - not vigilante, just so pissed off - not long ago I saw a tool in a skyline (surprise surprise) drifitng down a busy road, in the wet, with 3 passengers, going from lock to lock. He then turned into an even busier street, with heaps of pedestrians, and kept doing it. I got his number and rang the cops, I was so incensed. The copper asked about the car - he said "did it have a black bonnet", I said yes and he said "ah ha, mmm".
The next week I saw the same car on a footpath "for sale".

And to you guys who whinge about a car doing 95 in a 100 zone slowing your truck down - there's a good road sign down in Tassie - "100, it's a limit, not a challenge" - don't be too hard on those drivers, maybe that's what they're comfortable at - be thankful they're not going beyond their comfort zone.

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1969 Mini Cooper S MKII (1330)
1972 Honda 750/4 (his),1976 Honda 400/4 (hers)
1982 Honda CB1100RC (ours)

what really annoys me about people doing 60-95km/h in a 100 zone is that they do it in the overtaking lane. people have forgotten that the right hand lane is for passing traffic.. there is nothing worse then cruising at about 100 and u get to some d*$khead that has slowed down in the right lane.

or something even worse is the people on the highway that brake for no reason, they are speeding about 2km/h over the limit, better slam on the brakes before i get booked bugger the guy behind me. ITS A FREAKEN HIGHWAY U DONT NEED TO BRAKE.

if u want to go to a place where there are no D89khead drivers go to griffith, i juz went there to visit family and the time i was up there not one dumbass driver. everyone wasnt rushing to get somewhere its was a good relaxing drive around. even though 5% of the population are my relatives but anyway


thats my 2c

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oil leak?..what oil leak..that puddle under the car is just sweat from all that horsepower

Griffith Good drivers . they are dreadul especially after a lunch time and the amount of Grappa that sloshes down the main street from 11am.

All those bloody skylines stuffed with dozens of cousins driving like fwits every lunch time. Its so bad I dont drive in town. I park a couple of blocks away and walk.

They cant be related to you. All the people I know in Griffth dont put u instead of you in everything they write

I dunno about vigilante... strong word? Im not tryin to take the law into my own hands im just a concerned citizen for the sake of my safety and others... I dont doubt the work that the force is doing, but they cant be everywhere...
I live on a main road on the first floor - so got a real good view around from the balcony and the things Ive seen and heard makes my skin crawl... People use the main road as a race track or drag strip cos its long and down my end is kinda out of the way...

And it is by NO means a straight road - the amount of people that have come to a very quick halt on poles coincdentally close to a bend... and the fatalities - their own stupid fault, yes but not necessarily when its the passeger that dies on a quiet 60kmh road cos the p-plate driver wanted to do over 160kmh around a blind bend coming up to traffic lights.... such a waste should be a wake up call...
Another time, I was traveling down ballarat road a good 3-4 lane major road at 8-something in the morning and noticed a 3 tonner truck swerving from one side to the next, slowing down, speeding up all over the road - pulled up next to him at the lights he put his head in his hands looked really distressed... he nearly ran a couple of cars off the road... At this point I called 000 and reported it as I felt it was a definite road hazard

I just cant comprehend the amount of nonsense that goes on out there....

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Size DOES Matter!!!

Yes - I totally agree, some drivers need to be taken off the road. Including those who are intolerant of slower drivers even in a 100 kmh zone. I like the slogan "100 kmh - its a limit not a challenge".

Living in a rural area which is also a tourist area we constantly see tourists who are ill equiped for highway and rural road driving. The drive at 100 kmh and you can see by their posture and driving manner they are clearly driving out side of ther comfort zone.

The accident I attended on Saturday was a four car bingle that included a head on caused by a driving at 100 kmh who closed much too quickly on a much slower FWD with a trailer load of hay. Clipped the trailer and speared into an oncoming car.

Now vigilantes - I totally agree with Sport850 that a dob in campaign gives rise to too many people to dob in others without a valid legal reason and sometimes just out of spite.

For a theoretical example - Tiny dobs in the bloke who hogs the fast lane at 95 and brakes as he becomes nervous about increasing speed. That bloke dobs in Tiny for showing irritation, road rage precursers and probably speeding and probably undertaking to get passed.

None of this relates to the skyline drifter who NEEDS to be taken off the road but each dob-in must be taken seriously and investigated - which effectively takes active highway patrol officers and other police off the job.

I just think it has more downs than up.
Mike

When you think about it, it's only good luck that prevents many more hundreds (thousands) of deaths - it certainly isn't due to skills or good judgement. Just think about the numbers of times you've seen a near miss or some idiot doing something insane, and you say to yourself "lucky that wasn't a second later". Just good luck saved the situation. It's a bit of a worry when we have to rely on lady luck to be safe on the roads.......

Personally, I don't think it's a bad thing to be able to drop someone into it if you witness something insane, you might save a life, but you have to be prepared to go to court to back it up, and then maybe become a "face to a name" if the clown is in there too - then you might learn the meaning of vigilante!

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1969 Mini Cooper S MKII (1330)
1972 Honda 750/4 (his),1976 Honda 400/4 (hers)
1982 Honda CB1100RC (ours)

I have long been a strong advocate of a better driver training prior to a licence being issued. Our present system means learning a myriad of road rules, a hundred hours of driving experience and a fair weather competancy driving test. Nothing there trains a driver how to react when something goes wrong.

Driving instruction should be along similar lines to pilot training. You must learn and show skills in certain aspects of driving (emergency braking, skid control - the list goes on) before you can proceed to the next level.

Its simply no good to find out that at 2.00 am on a wet dirt road, with three mates in the car, that you cant handle a skid as the tree races up. All the road rules and legislation in the world can't prevent that.

As I said we get some pretty woeful tourist drivers here in the bush because they just dont have the skill base. Some of these are also hoons as well.

Agreed Mike - driver training (the standard "get your licence and hit the road" stuff) is totally useless when it comes to emergencies - but hey, they know how to park
I too live in a high tourist area, and you can tell which drivers aren't use to driving on country roads - they either look really nervous and unsure of their next move, or drive with such arrogance and disregard for others (and speed) that they are just waiting to cause an accident.
But then again, some of the country folk get pretty blase about traffic etc, and when there's a busy weekend like there's just been, they still pull out onto main roads from their dirt tracks as if it's a quiet old tuesday or something - saw it happen yesterday, and minor chaos followed until he pulled back into the dirt verge (ute with hay bales).
What annoyed me about the weekend was the number of cameras and patrols in 60 or 50k zones - not out on the open road where the real danger is.
And what about the bloke who was flashing headlights at oncoming traffic cos just over the hill was a random booze bus set up (at 10 in the morning) - does he think he's doing the world a favour by warning drunk drivers that they might get caught.....fair dinkum.
Peter.

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1969 Mini Cooper S MKII (1330)
1972 Honda 750/4 (his),1976 Honda 400/4 (hers)
1982 Honda CB1100RC (ours)

Yeah - we too have our share of old school country drivers. Not long back there was a semi driver who spilt his load all over the country side because he took a short cut ver a quite rural road.

He crested a hill and on the other side were two farmers stopped in the middle of the road in their utes having a chat. They were just out of sight from the crest and the semi was doing 80 plus as he crested. The semi slid to a stop on its side just short of the belwildered farmers.

I agree that anyone who is drunk needs to be caught but its not inappropriate to warn drivers of a radar trap just over a crest of a hill or at the bottom of a hill where speed creep may make someone slightly over the limit without the intent to speed.

Apparently it's illegal to flash your lights to warn of radar etc. I don't do it myself, not because of illegalities, but I figure if you're speeding you deserve to get done. I ignore those that flash (headlights ) at me by not waving a thank you to them, but I understand those that do and those that are grateful.
I have flashed the lights though when I see some clown really speeding, even though there wasn't a radar or anything around - I think it's fun to see their brake lights in my mirror and them probably wondering "how far up the road did that guy mean...?" At least it slows them down for some time.
But to flash because of a booze bus is really in effect condoning the drunk driving and alerting the drunk to what's ahead, and maybe letting him get away with it - madness, the guy was an idiot..

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1969 Mini Cooper S MKII (1330)
1972 Honda 750/4 (his),1976 Honda 400/4 (hers)
1982 Honda CB1100RC (ours)

Well done people driving in NSW ,

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23 ... 77,00.html

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biam do you live in griffith?

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oil leak?..what oil leak..that puddle under the car is just sweat from all that horsepower

No, I go there quite often and have done so for about 15 years. Why?

I don't know what the driving is like in the rest of the country but here in WA they are bloody useless. ALWAYS in the right lane doing 80-90 NEVER using the onramps to gain entry speed, merging is just one huge mystery to them, rubber necking a broken down car slowing the freeway down to nothing. Waiting till the last minute to pull out in front of you, not allowing you to get infront of them when you want to change lane. And I'm sorry but if a driver is not comfortable doing 100kph if that is what is sign posted then they should not be on the road, driving is about control of a vehicle and following road rules, you can't be a timid driver, you have to be positive and in control at all speeds and in all weather conditions, as far as I'm concerned if you can't do that, use public transport.

We need a far stricter training program for learners, advanced driving courses and stricter penalties for hoons. They don't even teach them emergency braking over here for goodness sake let alone any skid control.

Gig

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69 Deluxe - Sugercane Grey

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oil leak?..what oil leak..that puddle under the car is just sweat from all that horsepower