That's not exactly an apples-for-apples comparison though, is it? KMX is a modern oil made by a modern oil company to specs which suit old engines.

Ever heard of branding? Castrol have, and they're selling Edge at a premium, and KMX at a profit. Same oil, different bottle. Think Camry vs Lexus, same product, different price.

Yeah yeah, feeding the troll.. what was I thinking..

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The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

It is a very very common practice to simply re package good quality products into home brand packaging. Saving the consumer dollars.

Open your mind buddy.

And what oil do you use spaceboy? I used repco oil until they stopped selling the SG oil, went to FUCHS oil as that is what we put in customers cars (and I got it trade price) and now I've gone back to valvoline (same as what was in the repco bottle). Also one thing you said I have to ask about, . The mini motor and gearbox is 60s technology, and the cars have lasted this long on 60s technology oil so why change? Modern oils have much higher amounts of additives (i.e polymers and detergents) which is why oils like a API SL or SM cause gearbox (gearbox bearing) failure. I haven't used KMX oil myself but enough people do without fault for there to be anything wrong with it.

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06 Mazda SP23
80 Alfa GTV (weekend toy)
86 626 Turbo (daily drive, now stolen)
71 cooper s replica
69 cooper replica
76 clubman
62 english 850
68 Mini Auto

If kmx wasnt kmx what would it be?

What is the point of your arguement as you really are not making much sense at all.

This started as a simple post by simonk about how good it is that there is 6 litres of oil in a bottle rather than 5 litres like most other company's sell it.

(some people should wake up to themselves and realise that its always best to let people think you are stupid than to prove it everytime they open thier mouths go near the computer!!)

You MUST BE related to "The Bean"

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You will see this kind of attitude on a ricer forum. Ricers simply cannot believe that a product is capable of working unless it comes out of a timber box branded with an expensive brand name.

It's nice oil, obviously purchased in bulk by Kmart to simply have an oil presence on the shelf.

Proof is in the pudding, it holds up under smashing through a gearbox, keeps it's colour through the same (a simplistic test I know) and is dirt cheap. I'm a fan.

Also it comes on sale when Kmart has their big 20% off sales which makes it even better value.

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

I can put this topic to rest.

I purchased 1 can of the expensive brand oil,

and 1 can of KMX.............

took a sip of each and there was absolutely no difference,

I turned the same shade of green after both testings..

So there, they are the same...................

Didn't have to use Laxettes for a week................

I think Davo to test the change in viscosity properly, you need to heat the oil to above 110 degrees Celsius and then take a sip of each.

I'll have a full report of the outcome thanks.

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

Now I got blisters on my BUM

after reading about it on here I started using it in my bike, it works for me

I have always wanted to get away from the expensive bike oils, but what about wet clutch packs found on bikes and the friction modifiers found in auto motor oils, doesn't it affect the way they take up?

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

Id have a look at the specs on the bottle of the usual brand you use there Mick and compare. If they are the same why not try it once and see if you notice the difference.
I havent had a bike for many years so i dont worry about that stuff, one day

I myself use a more expensive brand of oil in my cars and workshop but that is my personal preference ( standing on my soap box which is bigger than ....well someone elses..........blah blah blahhhhhi have looked at the components that make up the different oils, used different types of oils, made my assessments and thats why i use, what i use, the end) more than worrying about dollars or what someone else uses

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With the exception of Penrite HPR40 (it's a semi synth) nobody specifically states that their auto oil is useable in a motorbike (as I said before the wrong oil will apparently damage wet clutch packs). I thought of using HPR40 in the R1 and hen just chickened out...140HP through the clutch pack with the wrong oil might end up costing me a lot of money. So I've been a woose so far..

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

I've used KMX in Ash's car and it seems ok, no complaints. For me, I'm sticking to HPR30, changed every 1,000 miles (including a filter change). Even if you use a cheap oil, I wouldn't have a problem with it if it is changed regualarly.

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i use black and gold. works fine

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lol - I started a Ryan bashing session... poor boy, I'll give you a hug

I switched from Fuchs Titan Formula 60 to KMX because GR stated in TME that he uses KMX in all of his engines - if it's good enough for him, it's more than good enough for me.

however....

here's a fine example of my Cooper's sense of irony - he's a cheeky little ning nong at times

I rebuilt my motor earlier this year, prior to the rebuild, I'd had a spin on oil filter. However, I decided that the spin on oil filter was a pain, so during the rebuild I plonked it in the corner of my garage, and put one of my old cannister type filters. This was fine, but I decided it was more painful than the spin on, so I decided to go back.

So, as part of my oil change, I re-installed a spin on oil filter housing. The very same one that came off the engine only 4 months ago. Tonight I went to the car wash, and to get some fuel, and when I got back, I discovered a nice trail of oil following me, and a handy puddle forming under the oil filter..... the gasket didn't seal... lost 1/2 a litre of oil - OH FFS!

I've no idea how it was sealing before, cos the face where it meets the block was curved - I spent a few minutes with the oil stone, it's all sealed up now, but I need 1/2 a litre of oil before 8:30 tomorrow morning, though maybe I won't bother topping it up, it's on the MIN mark

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