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 Post subject: FlipFront Legality..
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:12 pm 
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what are the rules and regulation as far as flip fronts go on a mini ? can they be done legally ?


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This applies to SA only, and short answer is yes they can. But 1969 onwards requires engineering certificate.

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Tilt Fronts

"Tilt front" is a term used to describe a type of forward pivoting integral engine bonnet, grille and front mudguard assembly for front engine vehicles. Examples of production vehicles fitted with this type of engine access are the Jaguar "E" Type and the Triumph Herald.

The fitting of a tilt front will be acceptable to Transport SA providing that:-

a. The new body sections are designed and constructed with no dangerous or sharp projections so that in
the event of an accident the risk of injury to pedestrians and cyclists is minimised.

b. The new body sections do not obstruct the visibility of lamps fitted to the front of the vehicle and in
particular the direction turn signal lamps or headlamps.

c. The new body sections do not obstruct the field of view of the driver. The field of view requirements are
determined as follows;

• With the drivers seat in the rearmost position, it shall be possible to see, unobstructed for the full
width of the vehicle, a line drawn on the roadway 11 metres ahead of the "driver's eye position"
when looking over the bonnet. For the purpose of this requirement the "driver's eye position" shall
lie at the bottom of the of the 95th percentile eye ellipse (reference ADR 15/01 clause 15.1.5.1).

• Alternatively the "driver's eye position" can be taken as a point 750 millimetres above and 270
millimetres forward of the junction of the seat cushion and seat squab with the seat in the lowest
and rearmost position.

d. All lights fitted meet the requirements of Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Rules 1999 and ADR 6 or
6/00

e. The anchoring, hinge and latching mechanisms are durable and have sufficient strength to secure the
hinged section. Transport SA may request a submission from a Chartered Professional Engineer if
doubt exists concerning the strength of components.

f. In the case of passenger cars and derivatives manufactured on or after 1st January 1969, an engineering
report presented by a Chartered Professional Engineer would be required, which demonstrates that the
vehicle continues to comply with Australian Design Rule requirements in addition to the above.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:41 pm 
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well that sounds fairly reasonable.. i had a feeling there was some rule or regulation against having no side firewalls around the engine.. something to do with stones flying up from the wheels.. but that mentions nothing of the sort.. cheers for that


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_666_ wrote:
no side firewalls around the engine..


I realise most flip-fronts don't, but there's no reason one couldn't integrate walls forming an engine compartment if that's what the regulations mandated...

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You could leave the walls there. If this is a plan for your '95 mini, I'd leave them.
Just trim the top down to clear the flipfront.


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its an idea im tinkering with.. if i dont need them then ill just chop them.. as i can only see them getting in the way.. and if i ever wanna go back ill just weld them back i guess this is a long way off and and just an idea atm


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_666_ wrote:
its an idea im tinkering with.. if i dont need them then ill just chop them.. as i can only see them getting in the way.. and if i ever wanna go back ill just weld them back i guess this is a long way off and and just an idea atm


if you get a chance or wont be hacking for a while have alook at my delux.
you might get some ideas and some tricks/ tips i have done along the way

i have a removeable rover front end on it, it still has the inner guards and also has bracing bars.

i also vagely remember steve saying its easyenough to get a engineers cert for it too.

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yeah will do, i guess ill see it at MATM 2008 ?


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work permitting it will be there.

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666, just keep in mind that factory SPi Minis are rare in Oz and collectible. Fitting a flip front to a 95 Mini is going to cause a significant drop in resale value, because it's hard/expensive for a future buyer to reverse.

Also, you will have various brackets, the computer and a lot more wiring to relocate than say a sixties Mini Deluxe if you do remove the inner guards.

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