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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:59 am 
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Blokeinamoke,,, you`d be pretty right if the wheels were turned left or right so the diff would come into play,,, or if one wheel was weighted more than the other,,, & if he actually had a plate type or adjustable type diff,,,

but with both wheels evenly on the ground, both wheels pointing straight ahead etc,,, it`s shear sudden impact value thats causing the distruction, the diff may as well not even be there as it`s just the same as having a mini spool or solid straight through axle... the diff will only come into play if one wheel starts to move faster than the other.

I was going to suggest bigger axles & bigger CVs like the morris 1500 ones, we did this mod to a speedway car years ago & i am doing it again now with my Turbo V8 mini, i believe that Peter Thompson from Towoomba also did this conversion on his 1510cc twin cam injected KAD headed sports sedan back in the day.

But still,,, the theory of a thinner axle allowing it to twist is a good one & is quite popular among many engineers & certaily works in most situations so i won`t argue with that at all, it`s taking the load away (or reducing the impact from) from the thin splined section & obviously the cirlicp groove is where they commonly break,,,

I just prefer to beef up the areas where they break & then keep chasing the breakages as they transfer elsewhere until you`ve nailed all the weak points :-) I know it adds a little more weight here & there but also allows for even more grunt to be used at a later date... lets say (for example) If you used Austin 1800 CVs with the very much bigger splinned/circlip groove section, then you can use the morris 1500 axles & even thin them down to produce some "give/twist".... i`m not saying it`s an easy job tho :-)

Quite often it`s best to have some clutch slip & rubber uni joints :-) (kidding)

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now how did my post get changed from "bloke in a moke" to "strap on"

someone is playing games with my posts ... come on now,,, cheeking bugga!!!!!!!!!

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Is it possible that the placement of the engine in bay has an adverse impact on the angle of the driveshafts creating excessive force?

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It wouldnt happen if you had an a-series in it :P

Whilst a lsd wouldnt have effect on equal length drive shafts, unequal length drive shafts mean unequal rotating masses and different loads on each side of the diff even when straight ahead.


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So what's the latest Josh, got them shiny new GR shafts shafts splined and heat treated yet? :lol:

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Why do you still have the large circlip groove as a stress point?

Minispares sell performance shafts without them & it's not a new idea - Special Tuning did it to stop breaking shafts on the rally cars.

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& then there was Morris 1500 axles & CVS :-)

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awdmoke wrote:
Why do you still have the large circlip groove as a stress point?

Minispares sell performance shafts without them & it's not a new idea - Special Tuning did it to stop breaking shafts on the rally cars.

Yeah they did but they welded a collar on instead. Is that really a good idea, on 4140 or similar spec steel?

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Went to get my Starlet Mini Drive shafts made today. Basically the bloke who makes them told me to get get Morris 1500 CVs. He said he would be happy to make driveshafts with Mini splines but they would be far too small in diametre. They would probably be fine and last (as long as I don't dump the clutch with sticky tyres too much :wink: ), but Morris 1500 CVs would make sure they last. I should also say that both my driveshafts will be equal length and as such, very short. 286mm end to end.

I'm not sure exactly what steel alloy they are but the guy (didn't actually ask him his name) mention nickel vanadium chromoly, no idea what that is. But probably the same as what Pubudug has as I believe he got his made at the same place, I think.

<edit> I do have a question, do Morris 1500 CVs fit (like the CV and shaft and all) or just the centres?

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Pretty sure you need the whole CV assembly, the tracks etc are bigger.
It fits in a Mini swivel hub.

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How easy are the Morris 1500 CVs to find/purchase? And who from?

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I made one phone call and found 2 today. Going to pick them up tommorow. :)

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Try your local Morris wrecker. :P

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Morris 1500 cv's the axle splines are quite a bit larger, the CV shaft the bit where the wheel bearings run on is the same diameter as is the drive flange spline. But the shaft the wheel bearings run on is 3/8" longer so you have to make up spacers to use them with mini hubs and because the axle spline is bigger the CV bell is bigger you have to space the CV towards the engine otherwise the bell hits the hub. Therefore the axles have to be 3/8" shorter than when using mini CV's

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