I have an SS compliance plate, grille and dash in my pile of spares for the sunshine somewhere!

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I think these were the only Aust mini to have stereo speakers from the factory.

I drove one back in the early 90's and it was fairly sluggish with all the super luxury stuff yet still with the small motor and yes it was rusty in the turret just above the rear windows! It is probably dead now - shame!

It's over 12 mths since I looked at it and didn't look at it being S, SS or LS. Don't recall any bonnet cable release, no idea if twin horns. Believe it was 76 and did definately have an up spec interior, which I thought was an LS interior, might also have had big fuel tank. It was a straight and overall very good condition car. Had very small amount of rust.

If this is an SS, doubt it is the white SS referred to above.

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Steve

I think it belongs to Graham Quinn. Sid from Ezy Tow in Cairns also has a white one in his storage shed.

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cheap work is not good, good work is not cheap

Yep your on the money there. Just did a quick white pages search, and its the address that I see it parked at. Is he an enthusiast? Or just some one who happens to drive a Mini?

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http://www.youtube.com/user/Hanras

Watto, the 1, 2, 3 and 4 after the 022D2S refer to the trim level and not the series variant.
For instance the Leyland Mini can have 021D2S1 or 021D2S1. The 021 is what identifies the normal Leyland Mini.
The Leyland Mini S is 022D2S but can also have a 1 or a 2 depending on the spec.
I have a Leyland Mini S with 022D2S1.

Take a look at this from the Leyland marina book...

Im guessing this belongs here:

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OK, so what does the fourth digit represent?

022 is Mini Clubman - YDO22, as 025 is Marina - YDO25.
2S is two-door saloon.

M is manual

09 is 998cc engine

That much we agree on.

If trim level is substituted for model, the result is the same: ie the models were in order of the trim level. So, I concede that the 7th digit refers to trim level, which happens to coincide with the the chronological order of the model.
1st model was Mini Clubman, 2nd model was Mini Clubman S (later Mini S), 3rd model was Mini SS and fourth model was Mini LS.
Similarly: trim level 1 is Clubman (later simply Leyland Mini when 998cc engine reintroduced with move to Enfield), trim level 2 is Mini S, level 3 is SS and level 4 is LS.

Now, YDO21 refers to Mini 1100 and was the fleet spec, or poverty pack, base model (call it what you like). YDO21V was the van.

So 021D2S would be base model Mini, and would therefore, by definition have trim level 1.

022 is Mini Clubman - ie YDO22, which had a higher standard spec than YDO21 - instruments in front of driver instead of single central speedo, remote gear selector instead of 850-style pudding stirrer.

When the 1098cc engine was discontinued, after the move to Enfield in May 1975, the base model Mini 1100 was replaced with the Leyland Mini. However, the Leyland Mini is YDO22, not YDO21 - as it has the instruments in front of the driver and the remote gearchange.

Mini Clubman S became Leyland Mini S.

Mini S, SS and LS remain YDO22 as they are only trim level changes, without any engineering drawing being required.

YDO23 was Clubman GT, which required separate engineering drawings because of the 1275 engine, disc brakes, triple gauges, etc.

All this considered, I don't see how you could have a Mini S which has lowest trim level. Of course it wouldn't be the first time that there had been something unusual to throw everything into disarray. Does the Compliance Plate say Mini or Mini S?

It also appears that Zetland plates and Enfield plates were stamped differently.
This is a Zetland plate for a 1972 Clubman GT


Note how it is only listed as a Mini, with chassis prefix YG2S8 (being for YDO23 Clubman GT). YG2S6 was for YDO21 Mini 1100, while YG2S7 was for YDO22 Mini Clubman. This prefix system changed in 1973, because Leyland introduced new standards to cover the whole Leyland range (which included all of BMC products and more).


This is a Zetland plate for a 1973 Mini Clubman S.


This also only lists it as a Mini, but has 022 (for YDO22 - Mini Clubman) and trim level 2. However, the fourth digit is A, but this is not an automatic. The seventh digit is I (WTF?) while the last two digits are 10, for 1098cc.


This is an Enfield plate for 1976 Mini SS.


This has the vehicle description on a separate line from the chassis code and number. In this case, it is listed as Leyland Mini SS, and the trim level is 3.

Similarly, other plates from this period list Mini S, LS, etc.


This is the plate from Chris Zerial's Sunshine, listed as Mini S.



OK, getting back to the fourth digit.
What does the D stand for?
The Mini SS featured in TME also had a D, while all the LS I have seen have and X.
Chris Zerial's Sunshine also has an X - but is 022X2S2M09, meaning a Mini S. The Sunshine extras were sales and marketing additions, on top of the Mini S trim level, but you would think that with the SS and LS getting different trim levels, so too would the Sunshine. Just another one to confuse the issue.

The supplied example for the Marina gives the fourth digit as A or B, meaning auto or manual, but then also gives the seventh digit as being for transmission type.

The 1973 Clubman S causes confusion, because the fourth digit is A, but the car is manual, and the seventh digit is I (not 1), whatever that means.

So why would some model Minis have D or X as the fourth digit, and why does the 1973 Clubman S not conform with either?

Cheers,
Watto[/quote]

- I have the stereo sound system also as well as the compliance plate and grille!

Also (and I don't know what this adds to the discussion, but)
My sunshine serial number starts the same as Chris Zerials - and it's definately genuine - too many details match.

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Watto, just to add another tiny nugget of info: The plate from my SS is exactly the same as the one shown, except that the chassis number is around 800 earlier and the build date is 7/76 not 8/76. Mine was painted in Nutmeg metallic.

Also, regarding the stripes, they were one piece clear plastic with the gold printed over the top, not separate stripes of solid colour. Assuming that they were screen printed locally, producing a one-off colour variation for the white car probably wasn't as big a deal as it sounds.

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Watto, the fourth digit is called the compliance status code. I don't know what it is supposed to represent but I can work out that A = Manual, B = Auto, D = Manual, X = Manual.
Hal Maloney's P76 book says After April 1st, 1974 the codes were D for a manual car and E for an automatic.



The Enfield plate was originally the same as the Zetland plate but it was changed some time in 76. This is the plate from my 76 Mini S with trim level 1. (This really is a Mini S with welded on flare supports, 3 dial dash, S badges, etc.)



Trim level 1 was not rare on the Mini S just as trim level 2 was not rare on the Mini.



Hal Maloneys book also says the code is a trim code. For the P76 2 = Deluxe, 3 = Super, 4 = Executive. (1 would have been the base level but none were built)
With the Mini they had 1 and 2 in both the Mini and S. When the SS came along they just came up with a 3 and then a 4 for the LS.

Leyland seemed to get into a bit of a state regarding what to stamp on the plates, they just went with "Mini" but later in 76 they started using "Leyland Mini" and "Leyland Mini S" Leyland Mini SS, etc. This seem to coincide with the new style plates. But in 1978 they just went back to "Leyland Mini"

B, D, and X all mean manual?

Curious.

Bloody Leyland.

So what is the difference in trim between 1 and 2?

I would have thought that level 1 is the basic vinyl seats, vinyl mats (no carpet), two gauge instruments, no radio. Level 2 - probably cloth seats, carpets, three-gauge instruments and mono radio.

??

Watto.

Level 1 in Leyland Mini may be a bit different to level 1 in a Leyland Mini S. In an 021 it may have meant vinyl floor covering but in an 022 it may have just meant a cheaper type of carpet. In my 022 level 1 it came with carpet and a three-gauge cluster. Who knows, the real difference may have just been $200 in the purchase price without any other mods!
If you think that all this is silly, remember back to the Morris 1100 story. When the Morris 1100 was released it was a level 2 (Morris 1100 Deluxe). It was a couple of years later that they added the level 1 (Morris 1100 Standard). A bit like the P76 with the level 2,3 and 4 but no level 1. They were keeping the level 1 vacant in case they needed a poverty fleet or taxi model in the future.

http://www.miniauto.com.au/minihistory.htm <<<< This site has info on the SS if you wanna check it out.