Yeah Mick, I did actually buy my last front Timken kits from a bearing co with a company order. Price was nice.... comparatively.

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The original straight roller bearings are not designed to take any lateral loads at all and it was a design mistake in the original car. They must have realised their error when they started to get into competition. The WRX Subarus use an Angular Contact Bearing which is about half way between the straight roller and a timkem tapered roller and they stuff them in one race. All the manufacturers are using ACB's these days as they present less rolling resistance in a straight line thus reducing fuel consumption. It may also be possible to get them for a mini but I have never enquired.

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Chris, if you take Mini front hub ball bearings apart, they ARE angular contact. But they don't last like Timkens do.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

I went to get a set from the local bearing supplier, he had to order them in as a kit, he ordered 2 sets, and when they arrived the set we opened was missing the spacer. I called Northern Mini Parts and asked the owner if the spacer has been phased out or anything. He proudly told me that he imports them from the UK so he gets the right stuff. The ones I had in my hand were timken, same as anything he's gonna have..... he asked what I paid, I said $50, and the phone kinda went quiet for a few seconds I didn't askk what he retails them for, but I'd reckon $80+

anyhoo, the second set we opened had the spacer

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Anybody wants to go this route, Timken's new p/no for the kit with spacer is LM67049A-9F2B8


ps. I got 'em for $35 +GST, a year or so back.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

hmmmm....me thinks I need to check pops bearings and repack ....just to be safe.

Are you sure? My memory says they were different to any ACB I have seen, mind you its a bloody long time since I have seen one. You can move the centre cage in relation to the outer race? I always thought they were a straight roller bearing. I used to sell them by the hundred. Our buying price from Leyland was cheaper than the bearing companies could sell them to us for and it used to annoy them that a genuine item was cheaper than theirs. ACB's are a cheap and nasty answer to the problem but just about all cars use them these days.

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Yes Mini ones are ACBs. Most cars these days have a `unit bearing' with 2 of 'em in. You change the whole shebang, $BIG, ta very much!

If you hit Mini ones too hard, the centre, balls and cage all come out of the outer ring. One side is open, you can see the balls etc.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Are the Timken's ones the ones that came standard in S because i am need to a set.

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Yes the Timkens (p/no posted above) are the stock S front ones.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thanks for that part no. again Doc. Bloody Champeen. Was wondering what the noise in the back end of my car was. Me has a pretty damn good idea, the Timken's will be getting thrown in. Havent had a drama with the front's since I changed em out.

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You can run standard bearings in the rear just as well as there is no weight back there

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yeah, but the standard ones cost damn near as much now, and the Timken's are gonna last way longer.

The bearings have been noisy since I hadda drive a dirt road to the gun range. I almost had to climb out and push the car out of some of the corrugations

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Haven't bought front ones yet, but purchase rear bearings a while back when funds were tight from the UK.
The wanted 50 bucks for ball, and 100 for roller bearings locally, but were available for 11 pounds in the UK at one of the bigger mini parts guys in the Magazines. I figured for 25 dollars Aust that it was still a pretty good bargain and bought two of these "classic bearing kits" as they were called.
Well, imagine my surprise when I busted them open to find that for my money I was getting Timken Taper roller bearings kits!
So I got both sides with seals for 50 dollars (plus maybe 20 dollars ordinary postage) and they were the taper bearings to boot. One third of the cost locally.

Hmmm, something stinks around here.....


Mick

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I got mine for $35 a kit plus seals which I think were $7 or something from Karcraft.

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