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The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

Mick, on this one... I've been reading the instructions for fitting the red module (which are on the back of the little box which it came in, which I didn't notice before posting before, though it doesn't mention anything about the silicon paste - anyway!), and they said to do the following:

Looking at his kit for the 25D (and remember, the Points and Capacitor for the 25D is shared with the 29D, even if the Rotor and the Cap are different), there's no Rotor arm in the kit. There is, however, a black ring in there. I'm assuming this would be the 'trigger'? So perhaps the kit could work across both distributors..?

I don't know whether or not my thoughts on the 25D/29D are correct, as the 45D/43D kit does include a Rotor arm, but it doesn't have a separate trigger. It appears the fitting instructions on the box are generic, to suit all the kits, even though they may actually be a little confusing for some kits (I'm sure someone, somewhere around the world, will be wondering where this 'Trigger' is for their 45D kit!). Food for thought!!!

Still wondering about what to do with this Silicon paste.

OK I'm after a kit to suit a 45D with the blue sliding points (A+ dizzy). Do these come in that type or will I need to spend US$80.40 (+ post) for a Pertronix LU144?

I guess another option is maybe put an early 45D (red fixed points) baseplate in it first.

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That is the trigger indeed, put it near some iron filings and you will see the filings stick to four magnets recessed in the plastic. The blue kit has a similar ring built integrally with the rotor. The ring does not contact the old points cam however, it hangs like a skirt around the shaft.




Yeah squeeze it (sparingly, less is more) onto the back plate. Clean the backplate to a decent shine before you put the paste on or you are wasting your time. Grime will insulate the plates somewhat.

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Convertible will know, he's the one selling them on ebay I believe. But I can't see why not...

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Cool. Will do. Thanks!

What do you reckon about the other part that you quoted..? Are you a bit blank on it..?

Convertible's selling them on eBay occasionally, continually through the MOCQ website or by email, but he's charging prices similar to the Pertronix units from the US. Which is fair enough - he's got to eat! The lower prices on eBay Australia are from an MG guy (linked on the previous page). And ex-UK is the same price for the dearer module.

I did ask the guy in the UK about it, he didn't know about the difference between the red points and the blue points. If there was someone nearby... Doc, if you were nearby, I'd tell you to come grab my kit and have a go (we know all the pitfalls now, so we wouldn't fry another one! ), unfortunately, you're the only person in Sydney posting in here... And the others from NSW have points. If you can just change over to an early 45D baseplate, then maybe it's just worth ordering one and having a try.

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That is the trigger indeed, put it near some iron filings and you will see the filings stick to four magnets recessed in the plastic. The blue kit has a similar ring built integrally with the rotor. The ring does not contact the old points cam however, it hangs like a skirt around the shaft.

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Thanks, Tony says can do, he is getting me a price.

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So... Would it be possible that the module and trigger required for a 25D and a 29D could be identical (given that the points and capacitors are identical), leaving the Rotor arm as a separate component, which allows one kit to serve both types of distributors..?

The base plate on the red module was nice and shiny, shame the first blue module made the baseplate inside the dissy all blackened and grey... Oh well, just need elbow grease and time sitting on the floor in the garage.

I haven't sat down and measured anything, but all you need to do is have four magnets pass within a millimeter or so of the pickup exactly 90 degrees apart. It's identical operation for each distributor, but the packaging is different. if you could adapt it then it would be the way so go, the unit won't be useless when the rotor button shorts to ground (I've had this happen to me once...waaaay back in 93).

Other than that I couldn't tell you any more, it would be guessing.


P.S. Cleaning the mounting plate in the dizzy to a shine before adding the paste is what I meant to say...

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Why can't you cut the magnet thingy off the bottom of the rotor, then use a standard rotor? This is how Pertronix do it.

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I knew. The baseplate was also nice and shiny two weeks ago.

Doc, on the other kits - everything but 45D/43D - they do have the magnet ring separate from the rotor arms. Only on the 45D/43D unit is the rotor arm integrated with the magnet ring - because there's no room under the standard rotor for the magnet thing.

the 29d kit has a the magnets set in a collar with a square hole in the center to locate and lock onto the dizzy drive shaft. It will stay there on it's own.

The 25d kit has the magnets as a skirt around the base of the rotor button. The inner edge of the skirt is wider than the square cam on the dizzy drive shaft and if cut off would be useless. It literally hange like a hoop skirt around the dizzy drive shaft.

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Well I dunno, this sensor must be high or something. On a 45D Pertronix the magnet ring sits on and is flush with the top of the cam.

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25d has it integrated...

You can see the little lumps where they lie...

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