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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:42 am 
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A question for all the Ausmini’ers who have painted at home with acrylic with a small (2.5hp 40L tank) compressor…..what sort of gun do you use…..gravity feed or suction, and what size tip…..? I’ve seen a couple of recommendations for 2mm tips what is the benefit over 1.4……..


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1.6 tip in a gravity feed for acrylic coz its thick. 1.4 for 2pac, 2.0 for spray putty.

Acrylic aint rocket science. I have a good gravity feed gun ($200) and I reakon it was a waste for acrylic paint.

I have a cheap suction feed gun that I just did some work with and it was fine. I think it cost about 15beans.

both guns will do the job....

You will have to block the hell out of the paint to get it flat anyway...

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With the size of the tip, you can get a better finish with a finer tip (1.4mm), but you have to be able to thin the paint enough. For priming and general painting (subframes/brackets etc) I just stick with the 2mm tip, however once I'm close to final coat I'll lightly rub back and use the 1.4 for a nicely thinned layer.


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My compressor is about that size.
I use 2 guns, both high pressure guns but i regulate the pressure low (35-40 psi) i find it easier to set them up that way.
1 gun is a big suction feed with about a 1L pot and a 2mm tip. It's good for painting large areas quick, but it's easy to get runs if the jet opens too much. My compressor can keep up with it but on a warm day the heat cut out kicks in when doing big areas (whole car) :evil:
The other is a little gravity gun, 250ml pot and a 1.2 mm tip. Good for the fine stuff and tight areas.
I like gravity guns better cos theres much less wasted paint and i find they clean up better. :wink:

Make sure the paint goes on wet, you can sand out runs, but if you haven't put enough on, then you have to put more on later.

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Thanks for the advice so far….by the sound of it if I have two HVLP gravity feed guns one with a 1.8 tip and one with 1.4 I should be ok…..


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If you can, get a PDS from the paint supplier for the product.

I use a Spartan brand acrylic and their guide quotes a syphon feed with a tip of 2.0mm at 2-4 bar pressure or a gravity feed with 1.8mm at 2 - 4 bar pressure when mixed 100:150 paint/thinners.

I have tried a 1.4mm tip on a cheapish gravity gun - but that is more for 2 pac paints and I have found it does not flow acrylic well enough.

Compressor may be an issue if it can't keep up when the tank pressure falls.

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If you can, get a PDS from the paint supplier for the product.

I use a Spartan brand acrylic and their guide quotes a syphon feed with a tip of 2.0mm at 2-4 bar pressure or a gravity feed with 1.8mm at 2 - 4 bar pressure when mixed 100:150 paint/thinners.

I have tried a 1.4mm tip on a cheapish gravity gun - but that is more for 2 pac paints and I have found it does not flow acrylic well enough.

Compressor may be an issue if it can't keep up when the tank pressure falls.


I see….hmmm…..scratch the 1.4 & 1.8 combo then....given that I’m using acrylic no point in getting a 1.4 if it’s not going to do the job…


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it will be fine, too much paint volume isnt good per coat in my opinion. you wont go too wrong if you dont use a massive tip.. just thin the paint a little more and go easier on the coats or you will get runs.. but as said above if your going for a home job your going to have to rub the crap out of it anyway so no need to be super fussy

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i have painted a few cars myself and i also used to work in a paint shop painting trucks for 2 and half years so i have used both acrylic and 2pack paints a 1.4m nozzel is used for 2pack as the paint is alot finner then acrylic and a 1.8 or 2mm nozzel is used for acrylic as it is thicker. if you have any other question just ask

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Thanks again all for the advice…..I’ve had a bit of a ring round to see what guns I can find in various stockists in my area….and the result is “not much”….only found 1 with a 2mm tip at $230 (star 4000 or some such)…I'll keep looking I think as plenty of people on here seem to have got 2mm for under $100....

Can anyone explain the difference between a low pressure gravity feed gun and HVLP gravity feed gun…..are they the same thing or is there some subtle difference?


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I have a good quality low pressure acrylic gun with 1.8mm. tip, it suction fed.

You are more the welcome to borrow it.

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henry the mini wrote:
I have a good quality low pressure acrylic gun with 1.8mm. tip, it suction fed.

You are more the welcome to borrow it.

Louis


Hey, that’s a really generous offer….I’m keen on buying my own though. What I would be interested in is info on the gun …brand, supplier etc


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henry the mini wrote:
I have a good quality low pressure acrylic gun with 1.8mm. tip, it suction fed.

You are more the welcome to borrow it.

Louis


Hey, that’s a really generous offer….I’m keen on buying my own though. What I would be interested in is info on the gun …brand, supplier etc


I bought it from Colour World, Torquey RD, Grovedale. I paid around $100 and it worked quite well with a 2.5hp compressor. You can get a VIP card that give you a discount, they give it to everybody :shock:

As before, you can borrow it, test and make sure it's right for you.

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Outstanding…I hadn’t heard of Colour World….I’ll check them out…did you paint an entire car with the gun? Also did you buy your paint from them?


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Are nozzles an industry standard and interchangable or are they brand specific?

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