NO. The Elder 8 port has conventional A series valve layout, not the I-E-I-E-I-E-I-E of the Arden.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thank's Doc , that puts it way in front of the Arden in my opinion , much bigger range of cams availible .

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thanks, do you have a rough idea of what it takes to get it in and running? what carbs? etc etc
i'm not seriously contemplating one with that price (just a student ha), would just like to know more.

They come with manifolds for a pair of Webers.
I did hear a figure a while back of ~$4K in the car, + carbies and exhaust.
Dunno if price still current, I'd budget a bit more.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

I had a good look at the prototype Elder 7 port today at Graham Russell's.
It'll outperform all the current 8 ports when development is finished, Graham says.
Including the currently available Arden 8 port.

I forgot to take pics, will probably get some later this week.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Good onya you told me you were going to take pics also

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What's the major difference between a 7 and an 8 port head? as Ken will be making both why go to an 8 port over a 7?

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Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

The 7 port has more development in it, so will give more power than the Elder 8 port did. Also you can use stock type cams and LCB etc exhaust systems.
Maybe the 8 port will disappear, I'm not sure.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

There would be bugger all difference between three exhaust ports with an LCB extractor verses four exhaust ports and equal length extractors.
It is the inlet that needs help, not the exhaust.

The ability to use off the shelf cams and exhausts is a very desirable thing.

The camshafts to suit the Arden crossflow are available new from the UK in a number of specs. If you cant get what you want you can still have it reprofiled here in Australia, the camshaft grinder doesnt care which way the lobes are positioned, he just grinds them as to the master on the machine.

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Have a Nice Day.
If already having a nice day please disregard.

You can still buy the camshafts i have 5 of them here, but they are of no
use because you can not buy a cylinder head,i redesigned the head 3 years ago for mini spares centre when keith calver was out here and as
of yet nothing has been done to re do the corboxes

& a big "WELCOME" to the great GR

finally !!!!!!!!!!!



good to see you`ve joined the 21st century my good friend



& about time too young fella

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Hey welcome GR, we should get some interesting info on topics now .....


These 7-ports sound real good. Like to see some piccies doc when you get round to it

Does anyone know when are they supposed to go into production (ie the redesigned prototype ones)??

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The way i see things (not that i`ve actually seen anything about them---yet) is that the 7 port would be FAR better """value for money""",,, allowing the facts that the std mini cam & exhaust can be used for an equal-ish amount of grunt & usable power spread

altho,,, i have driven a few full race Arden x-flow 8 ports & so i know what they feel like,,, so i`m interested to "feel" an Elder full race 7 port,,, but i must add the fact that i`ve already felt the grunt of a turbo injected twin cam 16v soooo,,,, well there`s "Nothing" that compares to that so far in my books



But then i might be a little biased too ,,, ,,, but it`s probably not very fair for me to try to compare turbo injected twin cam 16v to "Any" N/A , A-series ,,, so i suppose so i`m probably being a bit un-fair,,, but hey,,, when you`ve felt it, you know,,, if you havn`t felt it,,,, then you don`t know

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

I hope they end up being sold with a simple inlet manifold face rather than a set of built-in manifolds for webers. I would much prefer to use a set of quad throttles on a stumpy manifold than a set of webers and a pig-nose bonnet bulge.


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