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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:39 am 
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Ok,,, so Stew has been building this car year a very long time,,,, a few years,,, bit by bit, a little at a time,,, he`s a spray painter by trade & works very long hours during the day so as you may imagine he doesn`t get "That" much time to get things done here... There was plenty of stuff up with the engine, stripped threads & the diff was locked up & ,,,well i won`t mention all of it,,, but there was lots,,,, But still we got it all running & after the last mini muster last year (it`s first real drive) it grabbed up the primary gear bush onto the crank (It`s a KG Engineering built engine) as it was about to be driven onto the dyno,,, obviously we didn`t dyno it & just took it home, so we stripped it down & fixed that, then shoved it back in only to find dramas with the gears all sticky & grabby etc,,, so we stripped it out again & ripped the box apart (see 6 speed dog box thread) down & had to "Make" a reverse gear selector lever & pin assy,,, so we did all that & shoved it all back together again & it was running all nice

so,,, it was time to test it out,,, Off to the Willow bank Autocross/dirt sprint track ,,, now i was going to run my V8 Kombi, but it`s going to need a new clutch very shortly so i decided not to & Stew offered me a drive in the sports sedan, so of course i was happy to accept :-)

His first run was going to just be an exploritory run,,, just a shake down for both him & the car,,, hes a bit scared of this thing, it really is an animal of an engine & he also needed some time with getting used to the gears,,, 6 speed dog engagment box & hook first gear & yeah well it`s a bit of fun getting used to it :-)

so that was all good,,, Stew came in shaking,,, all buzzing about the run, heaps of grunt, heaps of wheelspin tho,,, so we lowered the tyre pressures & it was then my turn,,,

I havn`t been on this track in a mini in over 10 yeas so i was glad to be back, ,,, off i go & it`s all wheel spin,,,settle it down & get some grip & into 2nd gear now,,, more wheel spin,,, ok thrid gear now & it`s not so much wheel spin anymore but revs are racing like it is wheelspin,,,, it`s the clutch,,,, dam it,,, the clutch is slipping,,,, & the more i drive it the more it slips

pull into the pits & sure enough there`s a fair bit of oil comming out of the clutch area

I`m suspecting that the primary seal has pushed out there is sooo much oil there

anyways, Stew has another run & we pack up cause it`s pointless to run it anymore,,, but,,, the other guys check the lap times & my 2nd run was 3rd outright (apparantly) :-)

well,,, with the massivly slipping clutch & virtually no decent forward motion, just effctively cruising around, no power, no grip,,,& 3rd outright against all sorts of weapon rally cars like a pile of wrx`s , evo6&7s, mazda famillia 4x4 turbo , turbo corrollas, a gaggle of Datto 1600s, honda civics etc etc etc,,, Just about every type of hot rally car under the sun

well we`re pretty dam impressed :-) Only the Evo7 & Cameron Freemans mazda famillia 4x4 turbo weapon beat me :-)

New clutch within the next few weeks & we`re back to Willowbank to take the fastest time of the day :-)

videos were taken & i`ll try to get ahold of some during the week

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:48 am 
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Sounds like an awesome car to drive.
Maybe with a new clutch you might end up getting slower times due to increased wheel spin! :lol:

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ha ,,, yeah like automatic traction control you reckon??? :-)

nah,,, if i had some "go-Forward" ,,, well i would have "Gone-forward" :-)

it has the tyre grip now,,, we lowered the pressures dramtically (dropped 20psi) & it has plenty of bite now & i`ve already driven round that track under 45 secs in my 1510 roady green "S" (Lap record at the time actually) so this thing of Stews will absolutely eat that i`m sure :-) ,,, no , correct that--> I Know!!! :-)

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Damn piss weak clutches. When I found that the clutches in my engs were slipping that was time to stop and look at the problem.

When I tested my engs I had the whole lot sitting in a subframe and the advantage was I could make the positon of the clutch against the flywheel.
Then put the box into 2nd gear and start the eng. Give it a few revs and start to apply the brakes and the rev the eng and jamb the brakes on.
I found that the clutch slipped when the revs were quickly increased then the clutch grabbed.
After about 10 mins testing the plate was cooked.

I destroyed 3 plates trying various mods to stop it ,but I came to the conclusion that it was time for a twin plate set-up.

Back to the drawing board.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:30 am 
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was this the blue mini out there yesterday?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:52 am 
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TheMiniMan wrote:

pull into the pits & sure enough there`s a fair bit of oil comming out of the clutch area

I`m suspecting that the primary seal has pushed out there is sooo much oil there

anyways, Stew has another run & we pack up cause it`s pointless to run it anymore,,, but,,, the other guys check the lap times & my 2nd run was 3rd outright (apparantly) :-)


What do you reckon causes this Matt, engine crankcase breathing not coping?

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BigJobs,,, yeah the little blue one with the big flares & bonnet buldge

Mick , it`s just pushed a whole heap of oil passed the seal,,, the seal is still actually in there,,, we have the clutch & flywheel out now & will sort it all before the next meeting for sure... & no, there was absolutely no excess crank case pressure,,, if you saw the breathing system on this engine you`d understand that will "Never" be an issue :-)

It`s more than likely the old seal that has been sitting fitted in this engine for approx 9 years ago,,, just sitting there,,, & we were stoopid enough not to change it when we did the gearbox,,, i should have,,, again (just like the turbo moke piston breakage) it`s all my fault
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It`ll be sweet when it`s back together & we`ll go & have a stab at the fastest time of the day next time out there :-)

OHH!!!!! & it was actually an EVO 9 that won :-) don`t worry tho, we`ll get him :-)

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Ok cheers matt, seals are better these days, but they're still not perfect..we've come a long way from leather strips..

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hee hee,,, yeah thems were the days :-)

ut i like leather whips & nipple clamps & ,,,oh!!! wrong site :-)

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hey matt whens the next meeting at willowbank and what time does it start might come down and check it out.

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They pretty well have one every month, we may miss the next one because it clashes with the Morgan PK Histericals (Warwick) so we`ll be at the one after that (er...ar,, august meeting i spose it will be) You should come out & have a spin, In fact "Everyone" should come out ,,,they`re SOOOOooooooooooo much fun , fast & safe & cheap & great social event to boot, heaps of friendly people all just there having fun,,,, but there`s some fast cars too with strong competition,,, i`m keen to get my lap record back :-)

Talking with the chief scruitineers there last sunday they said that all i need for my hillclimb special to run there is a set of mudguards, so i`ll be very keen to finish it off & have a run ,,, We have Stews clutch to finish off & he will be ready again,,, also Gary Farrels sports sedan mini is almost ready too,,, so we should have a gaggle of hot bricks racing there again soon :-)

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Talking with the chief scruitineers there last sunday they said that all i need for my hillclimb special to run there is a set of mudguards, so i`ll be very keen to finish it off & have a run ,,, We have Stews clutch to finish off & he will be ready again,,, also Gary Farrels sports sedan mini is almost ready too,,, so we should have a gaggle of hot bricks racing there again soon :-)


so..... no Byron trips for a while? :D

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hee hee , i`m going to Byron this friday :-)

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hee hee , i`m going to Byron this friday :-)


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was this the blue mini out there yesterday?


Obviously you were there then,,, what car were you with or driving or what??? why didn`t you come & say hi? (or did you? ) :-)

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