First of all, let's get one thing straight, Molybond is not a friction modifier, If you read my post I quoted, that it fills in the lows creating a very slippery surface and a very hard surface. I WILL NOT RECOMMEND ANYTHING THAT I HAVNE'T TESTED THOROUGHLY.
As Kevin(Drmini) said, this product has been around for years, and It has been around for years because it is a good product. I have used this in alot of gearboxes and engines in both race and road cars without any problems for years. Some of the mini's have done 4 x 6hr races and have not had to rebuild the gearbox or engine as yet.
GT mowog,
You must know alot more than the multinational car manufacturers, cam developers around the world, as they all appear to be having trouble with flat tappet camshafts in regards to wear, because of the zinc and sulphur/phosphate has been taken out of the oil.
GT mowog wrote
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It does very little for lubrication of metal to metal components.
Take a look at some of these quotes from various sites from around the world and let me know what you think.
From the site
http://www.camcraft-cams.com/index.php?page=may-2008Quote:
ZDD+ has the proper combination of Zinc and Phosphorus to give the scuff protection equivalent to the old SF oil (Zinc alone doesn’t do it) while retaining the improved quality of the newer oils. Remember the ZDDP level has been significantly reduced in ALL oils intended for highway use including the diesel oils. Even many of the old additives like the recently reintroduced General Motors EOS have less Zinc than they used to. It should be part of every oil change in all flat tappet engines and of course is critical in flat tappet race applications. Don’t be sidelined by a flat cam.
From Site
http://milwaukeesynthetics.com/uploads/ ... Tappet.pdfQuote:
Engine oils contain anti-wear additives and the most com- mon anti-wear chemistry is zinc dialkyldithiophosphate (ZnDDP), which contains a combination of zinc and phos- phorus. In 2005, in an effort to guarantee catalytic con- verter performance in new vehicles, the American Petro- leum Institute (API) and International Lubricants Standards Approval Committee (ILSAC) instituted API SM and IL- SAC GF-4 quality standards which reduced the maximum limit for phosphorus to 0.085% and 0.080% respectively. Both API SM and ILSAC GF-4 specifications also contain a minimum phosphorus content of .065% and .060%.
Previously, API SL/ILSAC GF-3 oils were restricted to 0.10% phosphorus level, so a concern arose that oils con- taining lower levels of zinc/phosphorus could provide insuf- ficient protection in high pressure areas of flat tappets and camshaft lobes found in many older cars and high- performance engines.
From Site
http://www.mail-archive.com/oldsmobile@ ... 01291.htmlQuote:
Both Crane Cams and Comp Cams offer a additive to use for break in.
They also say GM's (EOS) Engine Oil Supplement also has a high zinc content. Interesting, that neither Crane or Comp Cams suggests to use it after initial break in. No benefit after that.
GT mowog, I would also like to ask you a question, have you ever done a test with molybond in both road and race cars, as I have? I recommend this product because of the years of testing I have found it to be a good thing. But, each to there own. I have many products on the shelf here, will gladly let anybody have from manufacturers who claim they have developed the best friction modifiers and then claim outlandish results in HP increase, Engine life and economy. But from my results from testing these products they have all been failures, AND, in some cases they lost HP.
If the molybond is not as good as I am saying, then why are all CV joints lubricated with a molygrease, which is a metal on metal contact?
Happy to have a chat about it, give me a call or come on down for a cuppa.
Matt, better send a box of wagon wheels
Graham Russell
