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And yes , I'm staggering the time of the questions so others get a chance at answering them (or pulling their hair out) :lol:


Ian, as unofficial quizmaster.. why not have people PM their answers to you, and you post the correct reply?

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twas 1960...

drivers were....

618 AOG, 850cc mini, P Riley/R Jones, 23rd o/a.

TMO 561, 850cc mini, D Morley/E Morley, 33rd o/a.

619 AOG, 850cc mini, T Wisdom/J Hay, 55th o/a.

TMO 560, 850cc mini, A Pitts/A Ambrose, 73rd o/a.

617 AOG, 850cc mini, N Mitchell/P Allison, retired.

TMO 559, 850cc mini, P Ozanne/N Gilmour, retire

not bad for 6 850's

then they disqaulified us when we stated winning too much :evil: headlights my ar...

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sports850 wrote:
And yes , I'm staggering the time of the questions so others get a chance at answering them (or pulling their hair out) :lol:


Ian, as unofficial quizmaster.. why not have people PM their answers to you, and you post the correct reply?


That sounds like too much hard work though Simon , actually I'm just being slack and posting the question when I find one or remember to do it :lol:

Well done EAB , you even gave more info than I needed .

What's interesting too is you see the two sets of number plate sequences , there were two different classes entered (Standard car class and improved series class) but they didn't have the number plates for the classes .

Peter Riley (618 AOG) , Don Morley (TMO 561) and Alick Pitts (TMO 560) drove in improved series class ,

While Tom Wisdom (619 AOG), Nancy Mitchell (617 AOG) and Pat "Tish" Ozanne (TMO 559) drove standard car class .

Wouldn't you think they could have organised it better ....

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then they disqaulified us when we stated winning too much :evil: headlights my ar...

The French may have discovered that they had driving lights fitted in place of the headlights but they didn't find the illegal primary gear bush, the wrong oil cooler pipes, the wrong rear wheel bearings and the fuel additive.
They were cheating. They got caught.


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Ian, I thought you had gone back to work? :P

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I have Kevin , but we're between jobs so I got time off for good behaviour :lol:

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then they disqaulified us when we stated winning too much :evil: headlights my ar...

The French may have discovered that they had driving lights fitted in place of the headlights but they didn't find the illegal primary gear bush, the wrong oil cooler pipes, the wrong rear wheel bearings and the fuel additive.
They were cheating. They got caught.


That i didn't know. :shock: although i can't see how a different primary gear bush could give you an advantage ?

on a side note would you get 'politely discouraged' by the police if you fitted driving lights where your headlights are now?

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They also missed the 850 logbooks they were entered to compete under.
On a side note i wouldve loved to see the faces of the french when they raced paddys car against a new stock cooper s. And the cooper s was faster.
Best advertising ever.

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EAB wrote:
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then they disqaulified us when we stated winning too much :evil: headlights my ar...

The French may have discovered that they had driving lights fitted in place of the headlights but they didn't find the illegal primary gear bush, the wrong oil cooler pipes, the wrong rear wheel bearings and the fuel additive.
They were cheating. They got caught.


That i didn't know. :shock: although i can't see how a different primary gear bush could give you an advantage ?

on a side note would you get 'politely discouraged' by the police if you fitted driving lights where your headlights are now?

The rules for that years Monte was for Group 1 cars, at the time that meant stock standard. A stock standard Cooper S was not up to the job at that stage.
The stock primary bush was not capable of handling the load and would have broken up. It was not a performance gain, it was a reliability gain. The better bush was fitted to production shortly after the Monte but it was not legal at the time of the event. (It was the same with most of the other cheating bits that were fitted, it was not for performance, it was for reliability)
The fuel additive was to stop the carbys from freezing (even with the standard Cooper S airbox they had problems) so Castrol supplied them with tins of and additive to help prevent carby ice. The additive was carried in the cars in cans labeled as Hydro fluid!

The headlights was a real cheat! At the time you could not get H4 headlights as they were not made yet! But you could get single beam halogen lights. So they fitted the single beam halogen lights in the normal headlight positions and the fitted low beam lights on the light bar on the front of the car.
Switching to high beam bought all the lights on but dipping to low beam just left the lights on the bar on.
And they wonder why the French got upset!

As anyone that has driven with the stock headlights would know better headlights would have been a performance advantage. :lol:


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Well , since we're talking the Monte ...

Two questions today , one's pretty easy , the other ....

Who , in 1966 before the Monte sent sir Alec a memo with the heading "Highly confiidential - read then burn" ?

After the victory in 1967 they wanted the cars back in England as quickly as possible so they flew them home , they didn't use a Bristol Freighter this year as it wasn't big enough , what type of plane did they use ?

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What's this , I've stumped you all (even Watto ?) ?


The book these two questions came from is "Twice Lucky" , but I won't give you the Authors name ....

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total guesses as my books are packed away in boxes:

1. Stuart Turner
2. The russian plane (Antanov?)

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What's this , I've stumped you all (even Watto ?) ?


The book these two questions came from is "Twice Lucky" , but I won't give you the Authors name ....
I am not stumped, I am just letting the others have shot. :lol:


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Yes it was Stuart Turner , but no , the plane wasn't an Antinov and it wasn't an eastern European countries plane either .

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OK , maybe it was a bit too hard then ... It was a Canadair CL44 :D

Next question , who did "Maurice the Mini Minor" meet on top of a hill while flying kites (clue , the visitor was singing waltzing matilda) with his friends ?

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