in the U.S., the Yoko A032Rs are used only for racing on a wet track. They are very good for that. But almost nobody, and certainly nobody fast, runs on them with a dry track.

Also, in the U.S., a race meeting is almost always two days and there are at least 4 track sessions(two races and two qual/practice session). So when I say that Hoosiers last two races, I really mean two race meetings or four(4) race sessions.

I don't know how much track time you get in a race meeting in Oz, but in England they often have only one day race meetings and there are only two sessions(one qual and one race) in a race meeting.

I know that it does not apply to the tyres in this discussion but when I was racing on road tyres the amount of heat cycles was the way to measure the life of the tyres and not the amount of tread wear.
Anything more that 8 to 10 heat cycles and there was a noticable drop off in grip. So two meetings was really the limit.
You could sometimes qualify well at the next meeting and have no grip for the race. But that didn't matter as long as you were in front of most of them!

And you'd know that because?

Hoosiers get two maybe 3 full meeting from a set of four tyres, which includes rotating them on the rim and changing front to rear.... But 3 meetings is maxium before they cost you seconds per lap ..... But they are still the fastest tyre and is proven on Victorian Circuits in Nc/NB cars....

PG

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1964 Grp Nb Cooper S
1976 911 3.6 Circuit Car
1969 911T Grp Sb Historic Racer
2009 LC200 V8 TDI.... 660nm..
2011 Golf VI, TSI

aparrently the fastest historic mini in OZ runs yokos

Super mini

Who's the Fastest then ?....... Im curious ?

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1964 Grp Nb Cooper S
1976 911 3.6 Circuit Car
1969 911T Grp Sb Historic Racer
2009 LC200 V8 TDI.... 660nm..
2011 Golf VI, TSI

Fastest Mini to date at Morgan Park is a mini on A032's - and he is about 2 to 3 seconds faster than the next mini and holds the 0-1300cc class lap time.

I use A032's (need a new set) they work well in the dry and the wet - last set lasted 2 seasons.

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1964 Nb Race Car - big bore short stroke & lots of revs - Sold
1969 Mk2 Cooper S - First Car

Kuzzy,

Are you the imfamous man on the A032's that is the fastest at Morgan park ?

PG

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1964 Grp Nb Cooper S
1976 911 3.6 Circuit Car
1969 911T Grp Sb Historic Racer
2009 LC200 V8 TDI.... 660nm..
2011 Golf VI, TSI

I think Greig Malure holds the lap record for Mini, and this is on the A032Rs... proof that with a good suspension setup, a 'slick' tyre is not necessary.
(oh, and some excellent driver skill too!)

I wish!

Still learning how to drive the car (have only completed 3 racing events and on my P's). Usually watch the other more experienced Mini drivers leave me in there dust.

I need alot more tracktime.

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1964 Nb Race Car - big bore short stroke & lots of revs - Sold
1969 Mk2 Cooper S - First Car

The fastest car and the best tyres are not necessarily related. The fastest bloke may not be on the best tyres.
You need to look at what tyre is the best for you on that particular track.
What works at Mallala may not work at Morgan Park.
Bathurst is not real hard on tyres but Eastern Creek is.

I would not be choosing tyres on what someone else does at another track.

All tracks will vary in surface condition.... You need to pick a tyre to suit the driver and the driving style....

Eastern Creek has a really abrasive track surface, when I was there for the Muscle Car Masters, I was watching the Minis come around on to the start finish straight and you could instantly tell the aggressive drivers compared to the smooth drivers, the aggressive ones were spinning the right hand front wheel and leaving a massive smoke trail. And there was some wining in the pits about how harsh the track was.

Mallala’s known for it to be hard on Brakes more than anything...... And the heat....

Anyway Hoosiers are a fantastic sticky tyre that most of the historic mini drivers are using, when they first started to be used they were an instant 2 second advantage, but as time has gone on and people have developed there cars and here is not so much of an advantage to be had by using them. I think at last check they were around $240.00 ea compared to the A032R at $170.00 each.

I have found the A032R a great race tyre, To start with I thought they were rubbish because I was killing LH front tyres, but since I have changed my driving style and the cars set up and they work very well, the A032R is more suited to a smoother driver, than somebody that brakes late and just throw the car into the corner. Hoosiers and American Racing tyres are more forgiving and can handle an erratic aggressive driver. Some body that uses Hoosiers would be replacing the front tyres every 2 or so meetings.

I can really see the American racing tyre being the new cheaper Hoosier. From talking to some people that have tried the American racing tyre the feed back is neutral, some like and some have gone back to Hoosiers. I would let them become more consistent in regards to compound and rolling diameter first…. Unless you can get them really cheap.

I'm still going to stick with A032R's, I started this year with 6 tyres, not one of them new, two of them had only done 1 race meeting and now I still have 2 really usable tyres... The tyres have done about 30 laps at Winton and well over 150 laps at Mallala this year... And only one tyre has got that worn that it has started to delaminate... A very good advert for A032Rs and my lap times have dropped as well…..

Most of the quick Vic Nb minis use Hooiser tyres, except for Lindsey Seibler who runs the Americian racer tyres with good results. Talk to Lindsey if you want a educated opinion on using them on a quick mini.

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Have a Nice Day.
If already having a nice day please disregard.

Yes Greig is da man around Morgan Park, all this and he runs no rear antiroll bar either!!

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Drmini,

a rear sway bar is not the Holy Grail it is sometimes made out to be. Lots of front running Minis in the U.S. and England run without a rear bar. Some actively dislike a rear bar and refuse to run one. It's not the only way to address understeer and often only serves to increase rear wheel lifting. I don't run one and have no plans to do so.