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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:07 pm 
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Hi I am going to change the front guard on my Mini and inner panel

My question what does one use to seal the panel on to the window scuttle that won't crack once painted

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Kiwiingtn bru, don't do ut!!!

How's your caustic tank going by the way? :)

Seriously though, every "restored" mini I've ever seen (minus about 3) has had the scuttle panel either bogged in or filled with seam sealer, you know what they have in common? They all crack and look offensive. It might take a couple of years but it will happen.

They weren't filled from the factory.

Reason being, that there is a lot of flex between the guard and the A pillar.

They don't look bad Un-filled.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:31 pm 
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Hi

I agree with your thoughts on not filling the seam..thats why i was asking

Are you a panel beater / spray painter by any chance

Have not found a urn to test it out but certinally will do

found this stuff n the net for rust http://www.safestrustremover.com/Restos.asp what do you think to good to be true..

Cheers Bernard


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kiwiinwgtn wrote:

Are you a panel beater / spray painter by any chance

found this stuff n the net for rust http://www.safestrustremover.com/Restos.asp what do you think to good to be true..

Cheers Bernard


Cheers Bernard I'll read it, looks ok.

And yep, out of work atm but normally working in restos.


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No good about the job..

So for the seam do we just paint as normal.

Also if you where changing the inner guard (right hand side) where would you join the panel.

I was thinking about where it over laps before the shock

also would you un stitch the inner panel first then tack it then replace the outer guard or just cop the lot for care fully of course.

I have done a car resto course about a decade ago so have a few clues. I have a friend who is helping me

I was going to spot weld it all back on as i like the original look

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Well, if I was doing it, I would be removing at the spot welds. It just makes of a cleaner finish and its an easier job (most of the time)

And yeah, just paint the outer guard and scuttle as per normal, no filler/sealer


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all cars look better without the original spot weld marks but if he wants to do a proper concourse perfect resto they will have to be there :wink: i made the mistake of filling about 300 spot weld holes on a 53 ford we have at work only to be told when the boss came back from holiday that they need to be seen for the originality to be spot on.. :roll:

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meeni wrote:
all cars look better without the original spot weld marks but if he wants to do a proper concourse perfect resto they will have to be there :wink: i made the mistake of filling about 300 spot weld holes on a 53 ford we have at work only to be told when the boss came back from holiday that they need to be seen for the originality to be spot on.. :roll:


Some people a pains in the arses.... I call them customers... :shock:

Nah, to be honest meeni, I love the challange. I enjoy having to meet strict requirements, it stops you getting slack. Keeps the mind sharpe, skills sharper and the blood preasure at a healthy 200 psi

You know? :)


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oh yeah, the scarier thing for me is that its the bosses dads car... so if a break something i get killed twice and they are both perfectionists :lol:

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meeni wrote:
oh yeah, the scarier thing for me is that its the bosses dads car... so if a break something i get killed twice and they are both perfectionists :lol:


Oh bugger that, I'd have told him to do it himself... :)

I hate doing work for other tradesmen. I always go the extra mile for people, always. I want to be proud when they tell other people who did their car,, not embarased :lol:

But tradies,,, pwar,, how about an extra 10 miles :lol: And the worst part is, half the time, they walk past, casually look at it and go--->
"yeah, good job mate"....

They never even notice the little details you spend hours on!!!! :x :lol:

Ahh, its all good. Reminds you what your made of :)


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kiwiinwgtn wrote:
found this stuff n the net for rust http://www.safestrustremover.com/Restos.asp what do you think to good to be true..


That looks to be the same solution as Evaporust, which works an absolute treat. Check out this Trade Me listing. The guy lives in Wellington (Whitby from memory) and the thing I like most is that you can soak things in it and when clean, pour the rest back into the bottle. You only biff it (by pouring it in the garden) when it goes black. Here's a post I did earlier.


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