um yeah not sure what to call it or put it

Was watching tv and the had a Honda civic 170 000 on the clock
they tuned the engine put turbo on it and it beat almost everything
in a drag/quarter mile race eg. skylines, BMW M5 etc

So lets say we take that engine from Honda civic and put it
in a classic mini? The Honda motor of duno (think thats what it called)
did 300hp wheels I am pretty sure

Is that the same if you put a starlet engine in a mini?

anyone want to talk about this?

I am interested not that I have the money to do this but
300hp in a mini

Hiya,

Z-cars do this sort of stuff in the UK all the time.

Either Honda VTECs, or bike engine cars, can easily do 0-100 in 4 seconds.

So expect the best to be able to do sub 12 second quarters.

Quick, expensive, and as far as I know, not legal here.

cheers! jon

i just found

http://www.zcars.org.uk/mini/volvo.htm

2L volvo

As always there is a compromise. Youve got to remember that the wheelbase is very short compared to even a civic, let alone a skyline or 200sx.

So while 300bhp might sound like a lot of fun, most of the time it would be actively trying its hardest to kill you.

With a rear engined car somewhere around 200 hp and even weight distribution would be very nice, and about 150 for a front wheel drive with as much weight at the front as you can get. After that it gets dicey.

But this is just the observations i have made and talking to drivers and reading forums. (until i finish my starlet mini )

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I have ridden in a starlet Mini with 200HP ATW, it is deadly in the wet and changes lanes under power in the dry.
Too much mumbo, IMO. 150ATW would be heaps for street use.

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perhaps a look into scrub radius would help.

Perhaps some rigidity in the RH castor bar front mounting would help. This all gets seriously cut about when fitting a Starlet motor, and the mounting lug usually hangs off a flimsy vertical bit of RHS tube. Not good.... the engineers should pay this some serious attention IMO.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

everything needs beefing up but most of the problems i see come from huge 13 x 7 wheels with massive offsets.

Have a read of this thread.

http://turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.ph ... lastpost=1

Its pretty much exactly what your asking, and the blokes on turbominis run everything from 10s to 13s with a hell of a lot of power.

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I remember the end of the group C cars at Bathurst. A leading driver of the time ( I have forgotten who) said "why are we lumbering around in 700 hp cars using a quarter throttle when the Group A cars are three seconds faster with half the power ??".

Sheer power just isn't the whole package.

Mike

You just cant get that kind of power down through the front wheels.

Look at how fast a lotus elise is with only 118bhp.

the minis best weapon is its weight

all good points, and I know power is not everything

to handle it Z cars have also introduced an AWD sub frames
for a mini so when you put your V Tec in it can handle it

edit> I can't say much cause I have never experienced
much more power than a 998 in mini although I drove
a done up 1275 down a street it almost did it for me >

yea thats the way to do it,
build a car from scratch and plonk a fibreglass shell that looks like a mini on it.

If you want speed bike engines are the way to go, in a spaceframe chassis.

So pretty much what the mini man has built.

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+1, in fact I'd say 120 - 140 HP gets the job done with some sanity.