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I think if I was to buy this motor for 2k, I would be fitting it and seeing how it goes before sending it for a strip and possible freshen up. I have a car that had not been started since 1995, it was turned over only. Other than maybe stem seals down the track, it runs great.

If you are going to freshen it up, then I would look around for one that needs a re-build and pay accordingly.



The idea of pulling the Motor Down to check Was suggested, if the motor has been recently rebuilt by an unknown Person, ( this is totally different to an engine that has been sitting for Years ) In the many Years I have been in this business I have unfortunately seen Many Recon - Rebuilt Mini Motors And Gearboxes Assembled by people that do not know what they are doing, even qualified Mechanics With no experience working on Minis, They often buy all good parts but assemble them incorrectly,
a lot of damage could be done which may have been avoided by checking it


John has really hit the nail on the head with a FBH. ANY second hand engine should be stripped and completely check over by some one who knows minis.
just a example , I have a moke with 1275 that a bloke wanted me to check over. The engine was completely re-build by a company here in adelaide. The engine has only done 500km since re-build and is stuffed. Compression down 2 cylinders, burning oil, and had a nasty knocking sound. The cylinders still had hone marks and the pistons had bugger all crap on them. PROBLEM who ever re-bored it stuffed up on the size for No 1&4 cylinders only by .010" :shock: :shock:

NO matter what 2nd hand engine and what you are told be prepared to spend extra money and get it checked over . It's cheaper than stuffing up a eng/box


Given the motor we are talking about has done 7,000k's, I would try it (each to their own). There are instances of motors not being built properly, no argument there. But would you pull a 7,000km motor out of a car and strip it because someone you didn't know might have built it and got something wrong - No.
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Good logic there.. if it's already done 7000km and doesn't show signs of being tired, it'll probably do lots more. If it was built badly it would have failed by now.

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Given the motor we are talking about has done 7,000k's, I would try it (each to their own). There are instances of motors not being built properly, no argument there. But would you pull a 7,000km motor out of a car and strip it because someone you didn't know might have built it and got something wrong - No.


Yes I would because I am not sure that this has travelled 7,000k's, Without Problems and I have seen many a destroyed Crankshaft And Block Just from a simple little Mistake like centre crank thrusts fitted back to front, So I Think a little time spent before fitting Could save Many Dollars But as You say ( each to their own )

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Hey,,, you call tell people the right way to do things till you`re blue in the face

but "sometimes" you can lead the horse to water,,, making him drink is another matter :-)

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tis a smart man who learns from the mistakes of others, not from his own expensive mistakes :wink:

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david rosenthal wrote:
tis a smart man who learns from the mistakes of others, not from his own expensive mistakes :wink:


But he doesnt have half as much fun :lol:

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John Smidt wrote:
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Would you pull a 7,000km motor out of a car and strip it because someone you didn't know might have built it and got something wrong?


Yes I would because I am not sure that this has travelled 7,000k's, Without Problems


OK then! :roll:
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John Smidt wrote:
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Given the motor we are talking about has done 7,000k's, I would try it (each to their own). There are instances of motors not being built properly, no argument there. But would you pull a 7,000km motor out of a car and strip it because someone you didn't know might have built it and got something wrong - No.


Yes I would because I am not sure that this has travelled 7,000k's, Without Problems and I have seen many a destroyed Crankshaft And Block Just from a simple little Mistake like centre crank thrusts fitted back to front, So I Think a little time spent before fitting Could save Many Dollars But as You say ( each to their own )


You also have to ask the question as to why it had only done 7000km before being removed from the car and then not being reused for 2 years.

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mickmini wrote:

You also have to ask the question as to why it had only done 7000km before being removed from the car and then not being reused for 2 years.

Maybe the owner had more than one good motor, like I do.
My 1360 ain't broke and has only done 11,000 miles, but the 1412 stroker is replacing it for a while, next week. Why? I'm just sick of looking at it on the floor! :lol:

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selling it?

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Sorry nope, not for sale- I'm doing a few minor things to the 1360's S box then it'll go back in.
The 1412 belongs in our `77 van, if I ever get it fixed up. :lol:

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haha sweet is that yur mini in your avatar? Looks beautiful.
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Yep it's a 1970 Jet Red MiniMatic, I paid a 1L bottle of Chivas Regal for it about 16 years ago. Lots of bits missing. Spent another $5K to put on the road with a 1310S in it.
Repainted it last year in 2 pack Jet Red, cheap job but looks OK from a distance. :lol:

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drmini in aust wrote:
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You also have to ask the question as to why it had only done 7000km before being removed from the car and then not being reused for 2 years.

Maybe the owner had more than one good motor, like I do.
My 1360 ain't broke and has only done 11,000 miles, but the 1412 stroker is replacing it for a while, next week. Why? I'm just sick of looking at it on the floor! :lol:


yeah, but i know you Kev. Some guy on ebay spinning a story is a whole other question.

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My 1330 cost me many multiples of what John is asking in previous posts, So i think that price is pretty good.

I can't break mine (re: the reliability issue) lord knows I've tried :oops: . If built right, A series engines are rock solid.

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