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Bubbacluby

Post subject: South African oil filter number

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:13 pm

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Hi all my brothers car originally came from South Africa, so his oil filter bolts straight to the block.

He went to the local auto store to get a new filter armed with the filter numbers. None matched the numbers he had so the lad gave him the one he thought would work. Got it home wasnt right.

The oil filter removed has "made in South Africa" which would explain why he couldnt match it.

Does anyone know the Ryco or coopers or whatever part number that will suit?

Thanks Brenton

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Morris 1100

Post subject: Re: South African oil filter number

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:39 pm

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Bubbacluby wrote:

I just went out and pulled the filter off my Montego and it has a Unipart GFE150 filter. I don't know if the Montego uses the same filter as the SA Mini but they mount the same way to the front of the block.

Looking at the Ryco cross reference chart was no help. :cry:

Looking at the net it seems to be the same filter as the late UK Midget with the 1500 Truimph Spitfire motor and also surprisingly it fits a Triumph Spitfire as well.

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simon k

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:40 pm

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it's just a Z418

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Drexxle

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:29 pm

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bolts straight to the block????????

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Mokesta

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:32 pm

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Same as the twin-point injection blocks from early 2000s? Those didn't even have a dizzy hole.

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:36 pm

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Not a very good photo of it but you can see how it works...

Looking at the net it appears that the GFE150 has a drain back valve because it fits upside-down.

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:39 pm

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simon k wrote:

it's just a Z418

Nope it's not, it's bigger diameter- we went through all this a while back on the MM forum. I don't think it's the same as the Montego either.
I've asked the question on the SA forum.. :wink:

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:38 pm

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Reply from SA Mini forum-
"Z93 is the GUD filters one"

So I'd say Ryco Z93 or equivalent...

[edit] they also confirm that a FRAM PH2869 fits.

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:42 pm

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Hmmm...
Z93 thread = M16-x1.5-6H
Z418 thread = 3/4-16-UNF-2B

I wonder what the Montego one is?

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drmini in aust

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:44 pm

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Morris 1100 wrote:

Hmmm...
Z93 thread = M16-x1.5-6H
Z418 thread = 3/4-16-UNF-2B

I wonder what the Montego one is?

It's not just the thread, I'm pretty sure the seal face diameter is bigger too.

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:51 pm

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drmini in aust wrote:

Morris 1100 wrote:

Hmmm...
Z93 thread = M16-x1.5-6H
Z418 thread = 3/4-16-UNF-2B

I wonder what the Montego one is?

It's not just the thread, I'm pretty sure the seal face diameter is bigger too.

Just found a reference on the net that says the Unipart GFE150 is the same as the Z93.

So the Montego is the same as the SA ones.

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:59 pm

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Now I find on the Fiamm filters page the specs for the Z93 are different to what Ryco says on their page. :cry:

Fiamm says the thread is 5/8"-16
Ryco says the thread is M16-x1.5-6H

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simon k

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:12 pm

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bugger 'eh - one of Dad's engines is from a UK 1275 from a Marina/Ital. I'm sure he uses a Z418

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Morris 1100

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:16 pm

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Just found on www.rapidcarparts.co.uk

Applications

Quote:

ROVER GROUP MORRIS MARINA 1.3 1971->1980
ROVER GROUP DOLOMITE 1.3 1977->1981
ROVER GROUP ITAL 1.3 1980->1984
ROVER GROUP MAESTRO 1.3 1983->1985
ROVER GROUP MAESTRO 1.3 LS 1983->1988
ROVER GROUP SPITFIRE (TRIUMPH) 1.5 1967->1974
ROVER GROUP DOLOMITE 1.5 1977->1981

Cross Reference

Quote:

AC X1
ALCO SP815
BOSCH 0451103267
BOSCH P3267
CHAMPION D102
CLEAN DO279
COOPERS Z93
CROSLAND 670
DELPHI FX0009
FIAAM FT4538
FIAAM FT5088
FILTRON OP580/4
FORD 1523461
FRAM PH2869
FRAM PH2969
GM 7984335
GUD Z93
GUD Z93K
HALFORDS HOF209
KNECHT-MAHLE OC19
MANN & HUMMEL W713/14
MOTAQUIP VFL126
MOTORCRAFT EFL075
PBR BC1107
POWERTRAIN PMFL23
POWERTRAIN PMFL24
PUROLATOR L17295
PUROLATOR L27535
QH QOF2073
QH QOF2074
RYKO Z246
TECNOCAR R329
TEHO OK69
TEHO OK9
TJ FB2073
TJ FB2074
UFI 23.157.00
UNIPART GFE119
UNIPART GFE137
UNIPART GFE150
UNIPART GFE24
UNIPART GFE4
UNIPART GFE442
VAUXHALL 7984335
VECO VY2134

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Bubbacluby

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:25 pm

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Morris 1100 wrote:

Just found on www.rapidcarparts.co.uk

Applications

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Cross Reference

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Ahh your a Champion Morris 1100

Thanks soo much for that, i will print that and give a copy to my brother.

Much appreciated

Thanks as well Doc, as you gave the info that the other info flowed from

Brenton

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