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...and the sender was in a 202 head, on a 997.


In a 202 head, yes, but there where early ones (not sure of the number) that didn't.

<EDIT> bit difficult to see (I'll find a better pic) but here's an early 997

http://www.mk1-performance-conversions. ... eg_002.jpg

No hole for the sender - not a 202 head.


12G206?

A pic from the Minishow...

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12G206 was on early 998 Cooper, not 997.
It's basically a 295 head missing the 2 manifold locating rings.

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drmini in aust wrote:
12G206 was on early 998 Cooper, not 997.
It's basically a 295 head missing the 2 manifold locating rings.


Yes Doc, I am aware of what a 12G206 was fitted to, I am just trying to work out what head GTmowog is talking about.
Most mini books, websites etc say that a 202 head was fitted to a 997 and the 295 & 206 heads fitted to the 998, all these heads have the temp sender hole, for a 997 cooper to have a head without a hole I guess it must be one of the earlier 803/950/850 heads, eg. 12A628 modified to suit.

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Agreed. :wink:

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I can't understand how any Cooper head can not have a temp sender. It is just impossible. The three dial dash would look silly with a non working temp gauge.


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Morris 1100 wrote:
I can't understand how any Cooper head can not have a temp sender. It is just impossible. The three dial dash would look silly with a non working temp gauge.


I have pic of the engine from my 997 Cooper taken around about 1967 or so, it has the sender unit for the temp guage fitted into the thermostat cover. Trouble is my memory is a bit vague going back to that era with that particular car as I changed a lot on it around that time, I remember fitting a very modified mark 1 sprite head to it, I can't recall if the pic is of the 997 head or the sprite head, they may even be the same, but the sender is in the thermostat cover, not the head in this particular photo but it may be a photo of the motor with the sprite head on it hence the sender in the thermostat cover.


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Thanks for the pics everyone. I will pass them on and see if I cant get a fwe photos of the car.

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yeah well,,, on the temp sender hole thing,,, i believe if anyone would know it would be Marky-Mark Foster of MK1 performance because the early English Coopers were not absolutely identical to our "Later" Aussie ones in every dept

it may be possible that an earlier version came out in England , but not here ,,, one reason i can think of right now is they made the alloy temp sender adaptor plate for the other end of the head ,,, i always figured they were just for the 850`s as they didn`t have a sender hole... so maybe early English Coopers may not have had it either & possibly used that same adaptor (i don`t know for sure)

But i do know for a fact that you could have ordered almost anything you wanted as "Factory Fitment" back in those days """in England""",,, not so much here tho,,, things were sold as "Options" & the bits/parts were simply stuffed in the boot here :-) or "Dealer" fitted after sale

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GT mowog wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
...and the sender was in a 202 head, on a 997.


In a 202 head, yes, but there where early ones (not sure of the number) that didn't.

No hole for the sender - not a 202 head.


Found it! The head casting for the very early 997 Cooper, that had NO hole for the sender was a 22G185. The temp sender was fitted to the thermostat housing. I couldn't say how many of these were used on the 997's or when they changed over. I did have one of these (might still have it??).

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There's three archived pictures of a Mini Cooper, incuding engine shot, that I found using the NLA's Trove search facility:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=Morris ... ooper+1962

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