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The the parts are hard to come by and labour is cheap.
Here the parts are easy to come by, and its the labour which get you.


Nicely put. That "denter" ( :lol: ) has some serious skills!

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I guess experience teaches you how much to squint when welding :shock:

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I guess experience teaches you how much to squint when welding :shock:

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Hehe, I was under a Toyota minibus yesterday repairing the entry step rails after some 130kg fatass person broke it.
The inside weld (gasless MIG) I did with eyes wide shut, I couldn't get under there with helmet on! :shock:

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incredible skill, and something that sadly wont be around for much longer.. not alot of people can whip up hand made stuff anymore

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I love his vice-grips. Quick and simple. :D


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Thing is those hand made panels would most likely be cheaper to buy than the reproduction panels from the UK

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Mick wrote:
There, the parts are hard to come by and labour is cheap.
Here, the parts are easy to come by, and its the labour which get you.


Ain't that the bloody truth! Your everyday mechanic charges around $100 an hour.......works out to a yearly salary of $200,000 in labour alone for a 40hour week 50 weeks a year.......then there's what they sting you as profit on parts too!

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works out to a yearly salary of $200,000 in labour alone for a 40hour week 50 weeks a year


Be nice if that was how it worked out, but from that err salary figure (gross takings), deduct all the workshop equipment, sevicing of said equipment, tools of trade, training, insurances, workers comp, sick days, holidays, rent, electricity, telephone, computers, internet fees, accountancy costs, bank fees, interest, advertising, and a raft of other normal business expences and I think you'll find $200 grand wouldn't cover even that, so there ain't much left to spend at the pub.

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True Gt, being a former business owner the bloody overheads keep you poor. Insurance is getting steeper and steeper too


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Danny wrote:
Mick wrote:
There, the parts are hard to come by and labour is cheap.
Here, the parts are easy to come by, and its the labour which get you.


Ain't that the bloody truth! Your everyday mechanic charges around $100 an hour.......works out to a yearly salary of $200,000 in labour alone for a 40hour week 50 weeks a year.......then there's what they sting you as profit on parts too!



Well go to the BMW dealership down the road from my work which charge $198/hr labour. So what do you think their "top" mechanic gets paid? Well that would be $27/hr

I have to agree with everything GT Mowog said, though i do think BMW is rediculous. But i do think that most workshops these days need to be charging the $100/hr to get by.


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nice work by the denter,
might see if he wants a trip to sydney for a couple of weeks in my garage!


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GT mowog wrote:
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works out to a yearly salary of $200,000 in labour alone for a 40hour week 50 weeks a year


Be nice if that was how it worked out, but from that err salary figure (gross takings), deduct all the workshop equipment, sevicing of said equipment, tools of trade, training, insurances, workers comp, sick days, holidays, rent, electricity, telephone, computers, internet fees, accountancy costs, bank fees, interest, advertising, and a raft of other normal business expences and I think you'll find $200 grand wouldn't cover even that, so there ain't much left to spend at the pub.


Well when you've got multiple mechanics and multiple apprentices all being charged at the same $100 rate, and only being paid $27 an hour or less, you're seeing seriouus money there.

When I see local mechanics getting around in brand spanking new HSVs and FPVs and towing their private race cars around, I don't think "Poor mechanic, must be doing it hard", I'll tell you that!

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I dodn't mean it in a sarcastic way, but this show will put it into perspective a little: http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/659866

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Incredible work, another one saved... Excellent :-D


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Have a look at these threads, well worth spending some spare time looking through...8)

A very useful thread on how to make panels from scratch - http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=usetharch&action=display&thread=70135&page=1

and the Thai way to make panels - http://vwrides.com/viewtopic.php?t=43 Everything made with a few hand tools.... Have a look for the bus front floor, just amazing work.

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