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Yes I've done a non verto to verto and I would:
Recommend it for a lighter clutch pedal 67%  67%  [ 4 ]
NOT recommend it for a lighter clutch pedal 33%  33%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Hi all. Further to my last post, GT mowog has suggested I consider changing to a verto clutch as my car is a road car only and sub 100hp.

So the question is: has anyone done one of these conversions and does it give a lighter clutch pedal than a standard mini one. (If you haven't can you avoid posting please except for links to someone who has)

The motor is a 12H series 1275. If anyone has a similar engine with a verto conversion on Brisbane northside I could test drive that would be even better. I am at Strathpine.

Thanks in advance.

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I have not done a conversion from non-verto to verto but I have driven many minis with both types of clutch fitted.

From my experience the verto clutch is much lighter to operate than the earlier non-verto type.


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You could get all the verto parts from one of the thousands of people who have done the conversion the other way. :)

Another option is to fit a brake booster to the clutch. It may sound weird but it works well. Its good for people who don't have strong legs.

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Simon K's input:

"I wonder if you can't make your pedal lighter by checking and adjusting the diaphragm as per this article: http://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/ ... ticleV.cfm

if the diaphragm isn't set up properly, your foot needs to compress the spring, which makes for a hard pedal. If it is set up properly, the spring is pre-compressed, which makes for a soft pedal, with significantly improved clamping pressure

For reference, I have a supercharged 1275 with a standard clutch, and my 13 year old daughter drives it without needing to strain on the clutch

cheers,
Simon"

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1275LS wrote:
Simon K's input:

"I wonder if you can't make your pedal lighter by checking and adjusting the diaphragm as per this article: http://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/ ... ticleV.cfm

if the diaphragm isn't set up properly, your foot needs to compress the spring, which makes for a hard pedal. If it is set up properly, the spring is pre-compressed, which makes for a soft pedal, with significantly improved clamping pressure

For reference, I have a supercharged 1275 with a standard clutch, and my 13 year old daughter drives it without needing to strain on the clutch

cheers,
Simon"


Hmmmm.......did Simon also mention that his daughter is a champion althete too?

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GT mowog wrote:
1275LS wrote:
Simon K's input:

"I wonder if you can't make your pedal lighter by checking and adjusting the diaphragm as per this article: http://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/ ... ticleV.cfm

if the diaphragm isn't set up properly, your foot needs to compress the spring, which makes for a hard pedal. If it is set up properly, the spring is pre-compressed, which makes for a soft pedal, with significantly improved clamping pressure

For reference, I have a supercharged 1275 with a standard clutch, and my 13 year old daughter drives it without needing to strain on the clutch

cheers,
Simon"


Hmmmm.......did Simon also mention that his daughter is a champion althete too?


watch it... or she'll kick you!


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Yep it is a Shitttttt load lighter just do it you won't look back.

I have a at up I can sell you as I have a new clutch and fly set up
Only done 10ks as I updated my vert for a blower.

I'm at boondall northside we have 2 rovers minis you can try the pedal on.


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When I replaced the clutch in my Morris 1100 about two years ago I fitted a Cooper S clutch and pressure plate. Big mistake!
The Cooper S diaphragm it a lot stiffer to push than the stock one.

If you don't have a powerful motor and never get clutch slip just use a stock pressure plate.


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simon k wrote:
GT mowog wrote:
1275LS wrote:
Simon K's input:

"I wonder if you can't make your pedal lighter by checking and adjusting the diaphragm as per this article: http://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/ ... ticleV.cfm

if the diaphragm isn't set up properly, your foot needs to compress the spring, which makes for a hard pedal. If it is set up properly, the spring is pre-compressed, which makes for a soft pedal, with significantly improved clamping pressure

For reference, I have a supercharged 1275 with a standard clutch, and my 13 year old daughter drives it without needing to strain on the clutch

cheers,
Simon"


Hmmmm.......did Simon also mention that his daughter is a champion althete too?


watch it... or she'll kick you!


:shock:

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Morris 1100 wrote:
When I replaced the clutch in my Morris 1100 about two years ago I fitted a Cooper S clutch and pressure plate. Big mistake!
The Cooper S diaphragm it a lot stiffer to push than the stock one.

If you don't have a powerful motor and never get clutch slip just use a stock pressure plate.

If the diaphragm is set up flat on assembly an S one is pretty light, so is an orange dot one.
They get heavy to push when the assembled height is too great due to flywheel and backplate wear.

I dislike the engineering of the Verto, the flywheel is not attached to the crankshaft, but the diaphragm spring is. :shock:
It is much heavier, and its only advantage? is a lighter pedal + less force on the crank thrust washers.

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