Ausmini
It is currently Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:54 pm

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Converting Alternators
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:04 am 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:39 pm
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, E. Burbs
Hey I wanna put in a Japanese alternator, as a temporary replacement for the stock Lucas one till I can find a good high amperage Lucas. How do I go about it? I'm assuming that the Japanese unit has the controler inside so I'll have to disconect the control module - is it just "disconect the two wires from the module and join them together" (since the output is already converted inside the alt)?

Also the lucas unit has 3 wires going to it: Brown/yellow and Brown/green that go to the brushes one of these is ground I'd imagine and the thick Red wire another spade on the alt is empty.
The Japanese unit has 3 input connections in all: two spade terminals in a molded socket (one spade is vertical the other is horizontal) and a screw terminal on the side (its connected to one of the brushes so I'm assuming its ground).

They are no markings on any terminals so what goes where?

Cheers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:20 am 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39754
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
You obviously have the early Lucas 15AC alt with the external control box. I replaced mine with a later alternator from a Clubbie- you just connect the brown/yellow wire in the plug to the `IND' terminal on alternator with a jumper, wire and leave the brown/green one (field connection) off- tape it up.
The old Lucas regulator can stay there and not do anything, or else pull its plug out. Doesn't matter.

A late Bosch alternator is wired the same way- probably Jap ones too. 8)

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:14 pm 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:39 pm
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, E. Burbs
Thanks mate, can I be especialy dumb and ask - where does the red wire go?

The Jap alt. does not have any connection markings what do you reckon each connection should lead to (ie brushes)?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:02 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39754
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
Red? wire? should be brown.. it goes to `+' on the alternator. :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:27 pm 
Offline
the King of Bling
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:11 pm
Posts: 19858
Location: Baulkham Hills
No idea about the Jap special but I swaped and old and rebuilt (not working) ac14 with an AC 17 lucas.
I only placed 2 wires to the starter + Thick wires and the other thin wire to the warning light on the bincal.

If that heps. No idea on colours as everything has been bodged.

but hope it helps

Gamfo
in the hills

_________________
Stop Licking the Dog...I Don't Care Who Started It


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:57 pm 
Offline
I DWIVE A BIG TWUCK
I DWIVE A BIG TWUCK
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:17 pm
Posts: 8732
the hyundai excel is a close fit rob with the blue turbo clubby has one on his
makka

_________________
Anonymous moderation means the agro that is built up towards the mods isn't aimed at an individual (fewer "Makk" attacks). Less stress for mods means less moderator "retirements".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:03 am 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:39 pm
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, E. Burbs
You see the problem is that the alt has a moulded socket with two forks and no markings and a screw on connection on the side again with no markings (I know it goes to one of the brushes) so I have no idea whre + is.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:09 am 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:39 pm
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, E. Burbs
Does anyone know how the whole alternator thing works - ie whats the input whats the output?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:25 am 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39754
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
The biggest alternator terminal (sometimes a stud and nut) is +ve, and goes to the battery, via the starter solenoid terminal.
What is the alternator off- I'd go to the wreckers and have a look, or ask an auto leccie.. :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:41 am 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:39 pm
Posts: 1629
Location: Sydney, E. Burbs
Yea I just remembered that my dad's girlfriend's friend spent 20 year as an auto leccy, funny I didnt ask him before.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 100 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

© 2016 Ausmini. All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.