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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Before I go and install a booster into my car, just wondering what are the softest compound 8.4 brake pads available that anyone can suggest for me?

I don't really have the weight to throw at my brake pedal constantly so want to give myself a bit more confidence in stopping.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:59 am 
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Try the EBC Ultimax black pads. Work well without a booster on 7.5 discs for daily driving but dont try them for motorsport

Check that these are the right pads before you buy
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MINI-MINI-MOKE-7 ... m20b8ae77f


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i think the blackstuffs are rubbish, i have to apply ridiculous force to get it to slow down with em on.

i read somewhere that the pedal effort is high on purpose, to stop you from locking the brakes.


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I would imagine the stock factory type will be about the easiest on the pedal.

If you're really after a "modern/soft" pedal then a booster is about the only way to go IMHO.

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Super-mini wrote:
i think the blackstuffs are rubbish, i have to apply ridiculous force to get it to slow down with em on.

i read somewhere that the pedal effort is high on purpose, to stop you from locking the brakes.

I have had a set of blacks in my car for 2 years ( about 30k kms ) and drive it every day in traffic. I also do some spirited driving in the lower blue mountains. I have not had brake fade in that time and I have locked the fronts on several occasions. As for pedal effort, I found no difference between standard pads and blackstuff pads.
IMO you can not go past blacks in a daily driver.
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I ran blackstuffs in Barney and I currently have them in mine too.
As Pete said they are hard to beat in a daily, but PROVIDED you don't go on sprited runs down them thar hills... you will fade em and they'll go tata until they cool. Been there, done that, a few times.
Greenstuffs stop lots better than blacks when hot, but when cold with no servo you have to stomp on em harder.

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Super-mini wrote:
i think the blackstuffs are rubbish, i have to apply ridiculous force to get it to slow down with em on.

i read somewhere that the pedal effort is high on purpose, to stop you from locking the brakes.


Sounds awefully like your discs are glazed.

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GT mowog wrote:
Super-mini wrote:
i think the blackstuffs are rubbish, i have to apply ridiculous force to get it to slow down with em on.

i read somewhere that the pedal effort is high on purpose, to stop you from locking the brakes.


Sounds awefully like your discs are glazed.


Yep disks are glazed as well as the pads ... i never had mine fade on the track but they were crap until they became warm dont know if this was from being heat cycled or what ..

i would and do use these

http://www.minisport.com.au/prod547.htm


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Super-mini wrote:
i think the blackstuffs are rubbish, i have to apply ridiculous force to get it to slow down with em on.

i read somewhere that the pedal effort is high on purpose, to stop you from locking the brakes.


Completely the opposite experience with my black stuffs. New discs, new pads, stops on a dime and can lock em up if stomping hard

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Remember, when fitting any new pads and / or disc rotors (or fresh machined ones) that they need to be bedded in carefully before using them hard. Same with shoes and drums.

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i remember thinking the blackstuffs were acceptable for town use when i first installed them, but they were still very easy to fade so i cant recommend them and wouldnt use them again.

i'm not used to driving a mini anymore, so i guess the pedal effort isnt as bad as i think :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:51 am 
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The EBC blacks were better in my 1275 LS with 8.4's than they are in my van with 7.5's... I mean in regards to pedal pressure. Having said that... I used to drive the LS daily, and now I drive a modern car daily.

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