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I've seen a few half decent spray can jobs too!


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learn how to do it properly yourself. Concourse wining finish $700


Possibly, but not everybody has the time, facilities and patience. I'd rather pay someone else to do my paintwork and build my own engine.

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Adam and i did 2 mokes in a week,

my one in orange, painted on his front lawn, cost of paints etc around $400... his was the same...

It came out pretty good, hindsight woulda changed a couple things, but it still looked great! (until some dickhead reversed into it... :( ) being a custom colour i no whave to re-spray the whole car again... though will only cost me around $100ish for paint thinners etc

Honestly the job your after will depend on how much you pay...

2Pak whilst being all pretty and shiney creates barriers.... and under these barriers is moisture on metal, i have seen far too many vintage cars painted in 2pak that start to rust after 12 months, usually at seams or hard to sand places (under drip rail etc)

So my call is acrylic, its fast, cheap, doesnt have to be baked, and can come up rather shiney indeed, and it just looks right on a vintage car i think, it looks "warmer" with more "character...

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Adam and i did 2 mokes in a week,

my one in orange, painted on his front lawn, cost of paints etc around $400... his was the same...


I did my moke and trailer myself in acrylic, but I'm not going to call it a good job. It heaps of Orange peel and standing marks. But it looks okay from 20 feet away, which is fine for the Moke. I want a much better job for the traveller.[/b]

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mattsmadmini wrote:
2Pak whilst being all pretty and shiney creates barriers.... and under these barriers is moisture on metal, i have seen far too many vintage cars painted in 2pak that start to rust after 12 months, usually at seams or hard to sand places (under drip rail etc)

my 2c


Ummm :? , that wouldn't have anything to do with the 2pak... that'll be the prep work. If applied correctly a 2pak paint job will have ALOT longer lifespan than acrylic will ever have. :wink:

The biggest problem that comes with rust repairs on old cars is that it is often near impossible to get behind the welded-on patch and seal up the bare metal behind there. I have seen rust repairs done properly and still rust again in the same patch due to this problem.

Back on topic... Make sure if you are doing any paint work yourself at home, that you are aware of the laws regarding doing this outside a propperly filtered spray booth.
Not that this stops many.... but I think its just a good thing to be aware of, just incase the EPA comes knocking on your door with a nice big fine. Not to even mention the adverse health risks. :)

Sorry for being a downer.... just telling it like it is :wink: 8)

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Are there actually rules against painting with acrylic at home, outside of a booth?

I thought only 2pak carried those rules.

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Adam,

I have been doing just that thing. My advice is to be on friendly terms with your neighbors as there were great big dust clouds floating around my neighbourhood.


When i was a young uni student i painted my '68 van with left over roof paint from my girlfriend (at the time) dads house. We put in on the stove to heat it upti flow better and used a brush. Didn't turn out too badly either


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Oh yeah, I spoke with my local council and they suggested i hang sheets up to minimize the dust but as long as i didnt start too early or gotoo late they were fine with it. Also don't skimp on a dust mask and ear protection


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Oh yeah, I spoke with my local council and they suggested i hang sheets up to minimize the dust but as long as i didnt start too early or gotoo late they were fine with it. Also don't skimp on a dust mask and ear protection

Is that regarding the prep, or the actual painting?? :?

because a dust mask will do nothing to stop paint fumes :wink:

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Are there actually rules against painting with acrylic at home, outside of a booth?

I thought only 2pak carried those rules.


i'm not sure, because I don't use Acrylic at work..
But if it was me, i'd be making sure i checked . as I know the fines regarding 2pak are pretty severe. :shock: :wink:

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I was pretty lucky with my beater. He let me come in and do the grunt work like sanding and so forth. He would show me how to do it and then let me at it. If you can find someone like this that is flexible and willing to help it is awesome. Saved me heaps of coin.


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Hi mr fail,

I should've said I got a dual canister dust mask, that has charcoal or something in it. It does a pretty good job. Good point about the fumes as the garage/ area you spray in will smell for a few days.

My council were ok with acrylic. I read 2pak is a no no.


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clovus wrote:
Hi mr fail,

I should've said I got a dual canister dust mask, that has charcoal or something in it. It does a pretty good job. Good point about the fumes as the garage/ area you spray in will smell for a few days.

My council were ok with acrylic. I read 2pak is a no no.


Yea the canister ones are the go. :) but only for acrylic. they're not good enough for 2pak, you need to have an air-fed hood to spray with 2pak. :D

Get those plastic rolls that have tape attached that fold out to a few meters wide. Then you can make a little enclosure to try to keep the overspray to a minimum. 8)

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Holy Cr@p, thats cr@p...... :oops:

I think that would be a "only if I really had to" kind of deal.

You really do get what you pay for.

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