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68AUTO

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:50 pm

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Silly question.. but I still am after the answer.

What were the clamp types used on Minis in 68?

I have noticed that there are about 4 different types of clamps floating around. Photos or a URL would be useful.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:58 pm

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Its hard to fully describe, but I believe they were solid bands stamped 'Utilux' and they used a cheese-head screw and square nut.

Edit: Here's an image I have found. The first I found at a flea market. Its the type in the lower half of the photo. These were unfortunately all the wrong size for us however, being one size up from heater hoses, and too small for radiator hoses...screws should be blade type and not Phillips however.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:02 pm

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Hmmm... What time frame did they stop using the two wire band type ???

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68AUTO

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:11 pm

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So I should be looking for clamps similar to those in the bottom box?

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:18 pm

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I ma 90 percent sure for 68 it was those, and 100% it was correct for 69.

I have only seen the wire clamps on really early cars such as pre 64 in photos, but I am willing to be corrected if necessary.

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68AUTO

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:36 pm

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Yeah, I have seen those top wire type on early Morris's and most people nowadays chuck those new style clamps on their cars.

There is a swap meet coming up, I might see if I can find some of the bottom style clamps.

Here is the clamps most people use nowadays:

Here are 2 others that I have seen:

Another variation:

Are these similar to what you think the 68 should have?

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Mick

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:41 pm

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The best place to score the heater clamps I have found is to go through a pile of clubman heaters.

The heaters were inside the car, and the clamps are usually in very good to perfect condition because of this. You can usually salvage some nice ones this way.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:50 pm

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JTR850 wrote:

Here is the clamps most people use nowadays:

Are these similar to what you think the 68 should have?

The first are the usual Jubilee clips style, and of course are pretty much universal.

The last are the ones to use if you are after the originals for your 68, the others you photographed (except for the wire wound ones in the second image) I don't believe were ever used on minis.

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68AUTO

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:00 pm

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Cool.

I have just ordered a set of those bottom clamps from the following site (http://www.bjsmodelaandstreetrods.com/catalogue.htm) for $11.20 AUS.

I will contact my mate in Perth to see if he has some clubby heater clamps lying around too.

Thanks for your help.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:01 pm

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Here is a Photo of the clamps Mick is Refering to.
I am not going to say what year they where fiffed to the Mini,
But there is someome on here who will tell you, because he knows Absolutely Everything :roll:

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68AUTO

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:04 pm

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Awesome. Great photo.

The one's I have ordered are similar. I will send that photo to my mate to see if he has some.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:42 pm

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JTR850 wrote:

Here is the clamps most people use nowadays:

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Made is the US of A, I see.

Good, good.

The ones Made in China are not worth two knobs of goat sh!t.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:51 pm

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AEG163job wrote:

JTR850 wrote:

Here is the clamps most people use nowadays:

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Made is the US of A, I see.

Good, good.

The ones Made in China are not worth two knobs of goat sh!t.

And the Americans I know say the made in USA ones are crap and to use the German ones!

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:58 pm

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Um....

John from Mini King is ebaying these NOS ones......

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MINI-RADIATO ... 415b1a0c2a

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