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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:00 pm 
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I don't really like mounting belts on the rear shelf as the shelf unless the shelf is mounted properly.
I don't like them mounted on the floor as they tend to compress the spine in an accident.
I like them mounted at 90° to the spine but it is often hard to do.
If you had a cage it is fairly easy to mount the belts to the cage as long as it is a good cage. (one of the reasons I knocked back a drive in a Commodore at Bathurst in the 90s was the way the harness mounted to a clamped in bar)

If you are using the lower seatbelt mounts in the back be sure to check the panel joints for rust or damage.

You could strengthen the rear panel above the lower belt mounts and make new mounts a bit higher up.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:18 pm 
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i likey like

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Harness- ... =RTM687476


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woodwormm wrote:

Not bad, but I would probably add a brace in the middle from the middle lower seat belt mounts to give some more pull.


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That bar with seats still installed?!

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yup the harness bar with seats there for looks only of course.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:17 pm 
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^^^^ Are the harness belts ADR approved? [most harnesses aren't ,by the way.] If not can't be legally used on the road...no insurance if you have an acco.
A half cage is legal.[in SA]
You will have no problems with SA Scrutineers as long as mountings are done properly, although the lower mounting[under rear seat squab] is the best... IMHO.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:03 pm 
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hmmm,

yeah will keep standard belts for road use

insurance company's will tr and get out of any claim anyways...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:33 pm 
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Morris 1100 wrote:
I don't really like mounting belts on the rear shelf as the shelf unless the shelf is mounted properly.
I don't like them mounted on the floor as they tend to compress the spine in an accident.I like them mounted at 90° to the spine but it is often hard to do.
If you had a cage it is fairly easy to mount the belts to the cage as long as it is a good cage. (one of the reasons I knocked back a drive in a Commodore at Bathurst in the 90s was the way the harness mounted to a clamped in bar)

If you are using the lower seatbelt mounts in the back be sure to check the panel joints for rust or damage.

You could strengthen the rear panel above the lower belt mounts and make new mounts a bit higher up.



Depends a lot whether the harness holes in the seat back are higher or lower than your shoulders. With a correctly fitting seat,shouldn't have a problem with "spinal crush" with the harness seatbase mounted.Shoulders should be just below the bottom of the slots when the harness is tight.

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woodwormm wrote:
so changing track just slightly....

i've just measured my shoulder height back to the bottom belt mounts for the rear seat...

if i mount harness straps down to here i get a deflection from horizontal of 35 degrees... not ideal but it is within the CAMS acceptable limit.

anyone else run there harness bolted to the rear seatbelt bottom mounts under the back seat? if so any hassles with CAMS scrutineering?

i know mounted up on the parcel shelf provides a much better deflection angle to minimise submarining in the seat in the event of an accident but in the meantime til i can replace my shelf, i'm contemplating to the rear seatbelt mounts.



Is your vehicle LogBooked & to be used for Racing ??[not Speed events]
Log Booked vehicles ,As Beanie will tell you, will be checked for Harness angle/date /wear/mountings.

Vehicles used for "Speed/Non Speed" events will not be check for angle, only for mountings/expiry Date&belt wear.
Obviously if the angle is too severe... more vertical behind the seat,be prepared to go home without any track time. :cry:
On a Mini,the angle between the seat slots & the base of the rear bulkhead is about spot-on.
Mounting plates behind the rear bulkhead to be minimum75x50 x3mm steelplate
as per CAMS Manual.

PS Both Dad & I are Scrutineers in SA .

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