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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't body numbers elswhere as well? - at least on some models such as firewall (early models) and cross member?

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Well by all reports it is illegal. Some members commented on the Cooper "s" Numbers thread ,but, all seems to be forgotten here.I hope that we get a reply to prove my hunch incorrect.One, therefore on a Mk 2 Cooper "S",must protect their radiator surround at all costs.It appears that if it gets damaged and is not repairable you will have great difficulty in identifying it as a genuine Coope "S". This is a dreadful situation ,if true .There must be alternatives.
Oh,by the way,how many panels can be replaced before a car loses its status?



C'mon mate keep this banter to the other thread.

There has been plenty of clubman to round nose conversions done before. michaelb on here has done one. there is one on Ebay at the moment. And dad has a cooper S sports sedan here that has a clubman front on it :shock: :shock: :shock: was done back in the 80's. Yes that car wont be registered but im saying it has been done.
Cant wait for some people to put some pics up of some converted cars


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Mate ,you can do anything to a car if you want to. thats no big deal. You could put a 1955 MG TF front on a mini if you want. I believe we are talking about registered cars. If not I appologise.


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And as i said there is a registered one on ebay i think at the moment. And michaelb's 1275LS will be road registered.


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Road registered does not mean road legal necessarily though?
Question is, is it a round nose with a leyland rear, or a leyland with a round front?

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Leyland with round front. Theres a few within the mini club aswell.


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Legalities aside the difference between this and a fake Cooper S is no-one is getting ripped off

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They're more common than people would initially think. Its common to see that when a clubby has had frontal damage that people who repair them do so with round fronts because they're easier to obtain, either from smased roundies, frontcut panels or new panels.
Square front panels, grilles and lights are a little more tricky to obtain.


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Or is it that Round Nose minis are of greater value than the Square Nose. We are talking about principles here ."Whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander" You cannot pick and choose on value or is that ,where the argument lies? I believe we have the answers right here and unless somebody can come up with an answer to my previous request ,I guess "almost anything goes".


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Mate, I think no-one has answered your question because you seem like you will only be satisfied if we all just agree with you, and say you are right.
Now back on topic.. :roll:

I think by the time you go to all the trouble and expense of changing from clubman to round nose, If its done properly it's gona cost the same, If not more than cleaning up and selling the clubman and buying a cheap round nose to start with. I'd just keep the square nose, they are still cool :wink: 8)

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To tell you the truth I think its all a load of B/S. The type of vehicle ,should ,not enter the equation. Either you can use unlimited body panels to rebuild a vehicle or you can't. You can't have it both ways.That is, its OK to swap the front of either a Clubman or Round Nose and the ID of one of them is retained ,but ,when it comes to swapping a Cooper "S" front, that's totally illegal. We need the facts, not what may satisfy some sections of the Mini community.


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I don't understand why you would ask on here if something is legal or not. Go to someone that can give you an authoritative answer like the transport department of the state that is going to be asked to register it. On here you'll just get hearsay and the opinion of a hundred bush lawyers.

If you want to know how to do it, or whether it will work, you're in the right place. :D

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Timbo wrote:
I don't understand why you would ask on here if something is legal or not. Go to someone that can give you an authoritative answer like the transport department of the state that is going to be asked to register it. On here you'll just get hearsay and the opinion of a hundred bush lawyers.

If you want to know how to do it, or whether it will work, you're in the right place. :D

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To be fair, as someone who's tried speaking to the RTA here in NSW about 'out of the ordinary' stuff, they don't tend to have a clue and you can call 5 times and get 5 different types of advice. Getting input from here is just as likely to get you the right answer as there'll be someone that's done or doing the exact same thing and has been through the pain and effort of getting to the actual truth.

Now if someone was coming on and asking how much the renewal rego is for a 1996 Camry, then i'd say the RTA would be your first and only port of call but stuff like this can be a pain unless you get lucky and speak to the right guy. (Although in the ACT i guess they only have something like the population of Wolongong to govern and therefore have a smaller Roads Authority and you may stand a better chance of there being like one guy who advises on this sort of thing, maybe ;))


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So his first post was enquiring about main bearing caps for a Mk2 S block. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=800110
His second post was chasing Mini K door trims in black (or in other words Mk2 Cooper S door trims) http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=803289
His third post (and 4th,5th, 6th and 8th posts) was chasing a 68 to 70 body shell. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=806900
&th and 9th posts were selling a 12275LS motor.
10th post was trying to identify a Mk2 S dizzy (with an obscure number)

And every post after that has been debating the possibilities of re-shelling a MK2 Cooper S.

So is there any doubt about what he is up to?


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Morris 1100 wrote:
So his first post was enquiring about main bearing caps for a Mk2 S block. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=800110
His second post was chasing Mini K door trims in black (or in other words Mk2 Cooper S door trims) http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=803289
His third post (and 4th,5th, 6th and 8th posts) was chasing a 68 to 70 body shell. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=806900
&th and 9th posts were selling a 12275LS motor.
10th post was trying to identify a Mk2 S dizzy (with an obscure number)

And every post after that has been debating the possibilities of re-shelling a MK2 Cooper S.

So is there any doubt about what he is up to?




He is BIAM :shock: :shock:


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