how much longer are big wheel moke trailing arms than std mini arms?

can i put moke arms on my minivan to make my 13" wheels fit better?

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- '74 Clubman Ute project

I think they're about an inch longer

And the only reason they used them was the give better clearance on the moke guards

I don't think it would work the same on a mini, as the wheel is already centered in the arch

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I've never measured the difference in length, but it's a good 3" or there abouts, remember that the big wheel mokes not only had 13" wheels but also big profile tyres. They have to be this long so the tyre doesn't foul the front of the arm, the section the the pivot pin goes through.

They won't fit a mini without some serious body modifications (either move the subframe forward or the wheel arches back) and I'd say the same for a van, but probably more doable on a van as you have the extra bit of body behind the wheel arches.

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The extra length is four inches as far as I can recall.

In this shot you can see the stud for the rear shocker. The length from the pivot point of the arm to the shock bolt centre is the same as a Mini. But on a Mini the shock bolt is part of the stub axle. The extra length on a Moke is behind that point, giving a longer wheelbase.



I agree with GT, you could not use these Moke arms on a Mini body without drastic body or subframe mods.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

thanks for the help. so i wont be putting moke arms on the van. but i still need a way to move the hub an inch or so back to accomodate for my larger tyres.

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- '74 Clubman Ute project

Its pretty easy to extend a standard Mini one to fit a 13" wheel Moke. In Sri Lanka there are a large number of Moke owners who have to try to keep their Mokes on the road with a shortage of supplies and very little money. They end up being quite ingenious.

https://sites.google.com/site/roshaneprojects/extended-radius-arms-for-moke

You might not want to try this at home.

Tim

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1951 Morris Commercial J Type Van
1955 BSA C11G
1961 Morris Mini Traveller
1969 Triumph TR6R
1977 Leyland Moke Californian

How big are your tires..and why?

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http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15484

Standard mini arms should work. If the mags are the normal ones (13x5-13x7) with the normal tyres (generally 50% sidewall) they should all fit inside the arch. The only issue could be the van's too low so a set of hi lows would be the next thing ti look at.

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I`m pretty sure it`s 3 inches longer in the arms,,,
GT has it right (edit) as usual

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Well of course the moke guys will claim it's 4" more

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As I'm unbiased (I have both Mini arms and big wheel Moke ones) I will run the tape over em.

[edit] Mini 300mm
BW Moke 375mm (or maybe 376)

So difference = 3" approx.

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Which just happens to be the difference between 10 inches and 13 inches.

Tim

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1951 Morris Commercial J Type Van
1955 BSA C11G
1961 Morris Mini Traveller
1969 Triumph TR6R
1977 Leyland Moke Californian

Okay, so I got it wrong. But what's an inch between friends.

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

nah that`s not quite right,,, even tho it actually is

but because the side walls of the original 13" wheeled mokes were VERY much taller, like HEAPS taller than the average 13" tyre, the overall dimention is much more than the same distance of 3"

if you can make any sense of that then you`re better than me

crickey & i havn`t even had a drink is about 4 weeks



maybe that`s the problem

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Matt, that definitely is the problem