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oh dear - did i multiple send ???? The internet satellite goes to crap in the rain and its very patchy with frequent time outs.

Just another of the joys of Gulgong and rural Australia.

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watto wrote:

Keeping in mind that production probably began in January or February, for sales to begin in March 1966, this is supported by the following cars:



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The official launch date for the Mini De Luxe was 29 March 1965.



I think this is the conflicting info that Mike was referring too, which is it :?:

While I can see a launch being ahead of it being for sale, would this have been a full year :?:

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watto wrote:
It shows that in fact the info in the Wheels book is probably correct. I would suspect they got this information from BMC at the time - well before the purge and "burning of the records".

The other numbers in the Wheels book seem to match what I have seen.
The top number Morris 850 that I have seen is only a couple of hundred away from the total figure in the book.

I don't actually have the book, someone posted a photo of the page with the production figures in their ebay ad for the book! :lol:
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Oops :oops:

That's what Mike was getting at.... :roll:

Sorry for the slip of the finger on the keyboard. I have made a correction edit to the above post so it is now the right date.

Sorry for the confusion folks - another senior's moment.

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Thanks for the summary Watto.

I've gotta get back to my mate & let him know he has one of the last 500 De Luxe's ever built, and that he might have the youngest one left in existence!

He's not so young himself, so might be good motivation to rip-in and get started on the resto ;)

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Watto,

You've probably seen the following Service Bulletin which reinforces the March 1965 start date for introduction of the Deluxe. I thought others might be interested.

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watto wrote:
Thanks folks.

That is all useful information.

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So, in summary, it appears there were 37,489 Mini De Luxes made, at a mean average of only 765 per month. (Sorry, I appear to have divided the total by 39 months instead of 49 months - maths is obviously not my strong point.)

Keeping in mind that production probably began in January or February, for sales to begin in March 1965 - (edit made to correct date), this is supported by the following cars:

19316 sold in August 1966 (average sales of about 1100 per month)
210** sold in February 1967 (average ~ 891 per month)
25766 sold in June 1967 (701 per month)
31795 sold in March 1968 (869 per month)
32800 was the change-over for wipers in mid-1968
34738 sold in February 1969 (713)
37512 sold in March 1969 (755)

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BMC Australia was a leader in "just-in-time" production methods, years before the term was coined.

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Hi.

My Deluxe is a November/December '65 build, and reg'd 14 January '66.
Its car number 12870.

So between January '66 and the August '66 car data so far that would make 805 sales per calendar month(?)

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I have a feeling that despite the PR spin from BMC the sales of the Deluxe were never as good per month as the Morris 850.
The reason was probably the Morris 1100 was taking sales from the Deluxe.

The figures on Phil Rixons http://www.elevenhundred.com/marketshare.php/ seem to indicate that.
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I have a feeling that despite the PR spin from BMC the sales of the Deluxe were never as good per month as the Morris 850.
The reason was probably the Morris 1100 was taking sales from the Deluxe.

The figures on Phil Rixons http://www.elevenhundred.com/marketshare.php/ seem to indicate that.


I reckon your right.
If you were going to by a morris as a useful family car, you would have bought an 1100 over a Deluxe, and any saleman would have upsold the 1100 over a mini. My mini was bought new only as a onr person commuter/work car as the family had a '65 Wolseley for "proper" family driving.

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Morris 1100 wrote:
I have a feeling that despite the PR spin from BMC the sales of the Deluxe were never as good per month as the Morris 850.
The reason was probably the Morris 1100 was taking sales from the Deluxe.

The figures on Phil Rixons http://www.elevenhundred.com/marketshare.php/ seem to indicate that.


I reckon your right.
If you were going to by a morris as a useful family car, you would have bought an 1100 over a Deluxe, and any saleman would have upsold the 1100 over a mini. My mini was bought new only as a onr person commuter/work car as the family had a '65 Wolseley for "proper" family driving.

They needed the Mini as bait to get the buyer into the showroom. :lol:
The 1100 was very popular just like the Mini was 3 years earlier.

If you combine the Mini Deluxe and the Morris 1100 figures they were doing very well.
The two cars shared a lot of mechanical components and this would helped when one did sell more than the other.
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They needed the Mini as bait to get the buyer into the showroom. :lol:
The cars shared a lot of mechanical components and this would helped when one did sell more than the other.


Bait?
That sounds more like one of those Mini Cooper S or some such.... :wink:

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