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 Post subject: BRAKE BLEEDER PUMP
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:32 pm 
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HI, ANYONE TRYED A BLEEDER PUMP THE ONE THAT PUMPS FLUID FROM THE DISK BRAKE UP TO THE MASTERCYDLINDER ANY GOOD ONES OUT THERE.THANKS MINIMICK.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:37 pm 
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NOT A GOOD IDEA. FLUID SHOULD ONLY EVER BE PUSHED THROUGH ONE WAY.

ARE YOU ALSO HARD OF HEARING?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:09 pm 
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WHA? EH? :oops:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:39 pm 
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why should fluid be pumped one way ? (genuine question)

there is brake bleeding kit you can by and it pumps the air back into the brake cylinder
I will post the link when I find it

Looks like cleverr idea to me..


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On some light aircraft and trucks you must bleed the hydraulic systems backwards, they only work if they are done that way.

The only bad thing about it is pushing the dirty used brake fluid back into the master cylinder. But you can get around that quite easily.

The easiest way to do it is to use a good quality oil can, clean it properly, fill it with brake fluid and slip a bit of rubber hose over the spout.
If the bleed nipples don't have a rubber cap you need to clean the nipple before pushing dirt into the system.


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Ignoring gravity bleeding techniques for the moment, one of the better bleeding systems I have seen is a vaccuum device that attaches to a compressor system.

It quicky sucks out fluid and air and saves the collected fluid in a container which is part of the device.

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http://www.brakebleeder.com/products/br ... ers-1.html

Found it

also check out there training videos

Off course you need to put clean fluid in the sysytem first


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Wow! That is a lot of money for a simple oil can job!

Here is a couple of links showing how it is done on aircraft...
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=33493
http://groveaircraft.com/brakeinstall.html

I wonder if they do it differently on boats? :lol:


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What a simply yet fantastic idea

the question is can you still bye oil cans... :lol:


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I have used vacuum to bleed brakes from the top to the bottom.
I have used pressure from the top to the bottom.
I have used pressure from the bottom to the top.
They all work in their own way but on some vehicles you must do it one particular way or it won't work at all.

MAN trucks have a dicky master cylinder for the clutch that hasn't got a return spring in the cylinder. If you open the bleeder and push the pedal the pedal falls to the floor and will not return. The only way to get the pedal back up is to push fluid from the slave cylinder.
I have played with a race car that had a similar setup.


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Gunson esybled - runs off the air pressure of the spare tyre - pushes the fluid through from the master. I have one - yet to use it - looks simple enough though

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Wombat wrote:
Gunson esybled - runs off the air pressure of the spare tyre - pushes the fluid through from the master. I have one - yet to use it - looks simple enough though

You can make the same thing out of bits laying around the garage.
You need a brake fluid bottle, a bit of clear plastic hose, a tubeless schrader valve, the lid off a coke bottle and a drill. :lol:


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Morris 1100 wrote:
MAN trucks have a dicky master cylinder for the clutch that hasn't got a return spring in the cylinder.


MAN trucks - for MEN! :D :D :D

I've only ever used a small piece of tube I found in the shed and a jar. Works great, then only problem is you need (or it certainly makes it much easier) a second person to operate the pedal.


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Gunsons Easibleed - quick and effective, uses air pressure from spare tyre, comes with multiple caps for use on different size master cylinders.

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Gunson Eezibleed, I used one for the first time lately and it was excellent.

I got mine new off ebay for under $50.

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