Mini wasn't always made by the same brand though.. The gap in body styles is because the mini was hardly ever developed, no one knows it was made up until 2000 cos they all look old..

It will always be an argument, but the hatred people have for BMW over it is just ridiculous

Actually, you are quite arse-about. Sure the Falcon may made by the same company, but the progression of people (as in all companies) means that the cars are most certainly NOT built, to use your words in their most literal interpretation, by the same people. On the other hand, after BMW bought Rover, they used the same plants, lines and the same people to build the new Mini after the old one was discontinued. When the head designer in charge of what became the new MINI was forming the concept, he sketched a progression of hypothetical 10-year updates that the original car never got, so although there was no production to show it to the world, there is a natural progression between the old & new cars.

And when you think about it, that's not really any different to any other car where the only thing in common with the original is the name in the badge.

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You're only supposed to blow the BLUDDY DOORS OFF!!

BMW's use of the Mini name has not changed my opinion of the company in any way at all.
I hated BMW long before they even thought of buying Rover.

BMW owns the name, they can do with it what they want. I will actually be happy if they do revive the Riley name. It is not very often that a long dead name gets revived.
Remember it was Leyland that killed Riley not long after they took over BMC (BMH)

Also it's worth considering that Riley lost its independent identity when William Morris bought it in 1938 - well before the formation of BMC. So really nothing new & unusual is happening at all.

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You're only supposed to blow the BLUDDY DOORS OFF!!

Sooooo,


Do you think this will mean the MINI will get a boot?

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"Beware the lollipop of mediocrity: lick it once and you'll suck forever" Brian Wilson

Obviously some people do, as so far i have had someone agree and you disagree

Meeni I could work everyday of my life and save every cent and still not make enough money to purchase the "brand" mini, and i would think you would be much the same.

I am off because they BMW have really gone away from everything the orginal mini stood for. I.e. a cheap mode of transport for any person, and well the prices for a MINI arent exactly cheap in comparison to other small cars.

Also the way BMW treated "mini" business's when they took over the company was just wrong. Did you know the mini k badge that somerford was reproducing is no more because the person who made it for them was threatened with legal action over producing them by BMW (somerford told me that themselves). What they have to do with each other i have no idea.

Also they are making mostrous cars and still claiming them to be mini

It also annoys me how they try to claim the glory of the mini and claim it for the current MINI, when they really have nothing in coming.

I see BMW milking the name mini for everything they can.

So they are the reasons i HATE BMW mini, agree disagree, You wont change my mind. But everyone is entitled to their opinion

You say Falcon fans dont whinge about the new falcon not looking like the old, with the Falcon their has been a continual slight change as the model went on. BMW went from a Rover cooper sport 500 (which basically looks the same the 1959 mini except with more gizmos) to the MINI and well there is not a gradual change there is there? So i fail to see how drawing possible timeline changes has much at all do with anything?

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Most people forget that the Bini programme was already under way when BMW took over.

I am not real sure about the badge story from Sommerford. The company that was making the badges just stopped making all badges, not just the Mini bonnet badge. They stopped making Triumph, BSA, Aerial, Norton, Ford, Lotus, Jaguar and lot of other badges. You can't blame BMW for all of them stopping at once can you?

Well thats what the lad from the somerford store told me when i asked him at the IMM, and also heard other reports about the poor form they (ie BMW) showed towards mini businesses.

So it just adds to my reasons

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Nice one - I'm with Morris1100 on this one - genau! Although I do like the sound of a Riley Dreizehn.

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I don't suppose anybody noticed that that article was posted on April 1st

Nein, not at all

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I've been hearing about this for a while, it's Legit. I heard the Triumph model they were looking at was the Spitfire which would be based on the Z4..

I have mixed feelings about the BINI and i have mixed feelings about some ford products as well. I view the Mk1 Cortina in a very different light to the later Australian designed and built Cortinas.

I also think that car companies through time needed to be profitable to stand on their own two feet. Obviously a number wernt and were taken over to either prop up and brand or simply to eliminate it from the market.

However I do agree with retaining an automotive building industry in Australia.

However, with the mini, as romantic as we are about it as it was it simply would not have been alble to be continued to be produced with all the stringent design rules and later technology. At some point it would have needed design changes and significant structural changes.

I think the BINI is quite good when put along side its comtemporaries - the recreations such as the VW, the renault, the fiat 500 and the PT cruiser. The BINI is not a bad recreation and they are a lot of fun to drive.

If i was going to stick a mini into a tree then I would much prefer to be in a BINI than in a mini. I walking have a much better chance of walking away.

Re the BINI, if I was in the market these days (I'm not) I would go for an Abarth 500...
BMW has lost the plot with the BINI, with the `new' models they are getting fuglier and fuglier! (and bigger). Mini, indeed... I think not.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

This is a Riley.



This is a company that owns a brand putting a badge on something that is essentially something else they produce.



I wonder how a guy I know who has had Riley's for 60 years thought when BMC put a Riley badge on a Mini?!

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