Why do you want HID's on a track day car anyway?
Are you going to be entering 24hr races?

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I have 55w H4 style HID's which run at 4300K which is very similar to the Narva Plus 100's being around 3800K

Most people that fit after market HID's don't change their lenses around and run glass lenses designed for halogen lights which spread the light better.

I have clear poly lenses with a focused projector so the light is not spread all over the place.

The only reason why i bought them was to put more light on the road and at a cheaper price then buying narva plus 100 or 120's again.


@thomas,
I have my own reasons why i want HID's..
I have not asked for advice on them so no need to comment..
You just enjoy to drag things on and on and on..
By all means i am not asking you to stop, I find it entertaining at your futile attempts to get a response out of me.

@1275LS,
I don't want to drill any holes in this mini to fit fog/ spot lights so i decided to get HID's as they put more light on the road and use less power, I am not looking for something with a lot of distance.
Since driving a bmw 325 fitted with HID's i quite like them compared to H4's
I have been through my fair share of h4 globes and headlights trying to find something that gives me heaps of light but with no luck.

@adam.. I am sure there is at least one unsafe thing on your car which can put road uses at risk...

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Current: 1970 Mini K 2014 Focus ST
Past: 93 Rover, 64 850, 97 Rover, 66 Deluxe, 66 Moke
81 Austin Estate, 2006 R53MCS, 66 Deluxe, 1978 Clubbie
2014 Land Rover Defender 90

more like 48..
When did i say it was going to be only using it on track days?

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Current: 1970 Mini K 2014 Focus ST
Past: 93 Rover, 64 850, 97 Rover, 66 Deluxe, 66 Moke
81 Austin Estate, 2006 R53MCS, 66 Deluxe, 1978 Clubbie
2014 Land Rover Defender 90

So... Um... Back to the original question, I'm thinking that the P700s are the go for a period looking mod that produces a decent amount of light. With regards to relays, are they a necessity or can I just replace Barneys eyes with new ones. Can someone splain to me what the relays do?

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a relay is used to control a circuit which generally has high current running through it,
i.e
The headlamp switch on the mini is rated at <10amps @ 12v for a short amount of time, If you were to run headlights through that switch without using a relay you would eventually melt the switch as headlights generally draw more than 10 amps constantly.

What the relay will do is use a low current to electromagnetically flick a switch that is rated at a higher current so it can handle/ provide all the power the light needs..
Basically it stops the inside of the car from catching fire when you over load the switch and wiring.

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Current: 1970 Mini K 2014 Focus ST
Past: 93 Rover, 64 850, 97 Rover, 66 Deluxe, 66 Moke
81 Austin Estate, 2006 R53MCS, 66 Deluxe, 1978 Clubbie
2014 Land Rover Defender 90

Right. I'm down with that. Where does one source relays or are they generally part of the deal?

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Auto stores will generally sell a relay kit which comes with mounts, bits of wire and fuses with fairly detailed instructions.

I have a narva relay kit in my mini and it works a treat.
I bought it for $30 from auto one.
I think it was marketed as a "driving light kit"

http://tinyurl.com/6pg3moy
I bought the same kit from super cheap to wire in some lights on a quad bike, You don't have to use the switch supplied, Just connect it to your existing switch.

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Current: 1970 Mini K 2014 Focus ST
Past: 93 Rover, 64 850, 97 Rover, 66 Deluxe, 66 Moke
81 Austin Estate, 2006 R53MCS, 66 Deluxe, 1978 Clubbie
2014 Land Rover Defender 90

My bad.

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The previous owner said it was built for that purpose..But doesn't mean i am going to be only using it on track days.. Plans are to put it into daily use.

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Current: 1970 Mini K 2014 Focus ST
Past: 93 Rover, 64 850, 97 Rover, 66 Deluxe, 66 Moke
81 Austin Estate, 2006 R53MCS, 66 Deluxe, 1978 Clubbie
2014 Land Rover Defender 90

Relays take all the lamp load away from the headlight switch and the dipper switch.
Instead of switching 10A or so they only have to switch a few mA.

I like New Era relays (made in Japan), these are a proper double headlamp relay with 2x 30A blade fuses plugged in.
Right now, you have NO fuses in your headlamp circuit.. like all Oz Minis.

I bought mine from Supercrap but they no longer sell this brand, they have Chinese rubbish instead.
Look for New Era on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=new+era+relay

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

I think you're simplifying things too much here.

You ask for advice on an oil cooler; people tell you it's pointless and problematic. Then you say, "Pah, to hell with your advice - I want it anyway!"

You ask for advice on your brake calipers, the only improvement being a lick of paint, mostly offset by munted bleed nipples and metal filings inside your calipers which may later stuff your seals. In the process of this you tested your brakes on the open road and found your foot went straight to the floor; people tell you to fix it properly, stop mucking around with shiny paint and do things properly so you're not a menace on the road and you say "Pah, to hell with your advice - yellow paint is cool and I *think* my brakes work fine now"

You interrupt a conversation about headlights with a mention of your illegal and offensive light setup; people tell you it's dangerous, illegal and inconsiderate (though, there is much else to be said about it being it poor taste as well, but people were nice enough mainly to keep it on matters of safety and road etiquette) and you say "Pah, to hell with your advice - I have my OWN reasons for wanting [illegal, dangerous, inconsiderate] HIDs ... etc etc. I used to drive a BMW 325".

Well doesn't that say it all?

Your modification is at worst illegal and dangerous. At best it is inconsiderate and makes it harder for others to drive.

Rather than complaining about the "heat" this is getting, you might like to reflect on why people are so against your flippant, callous attitude to their safety.

Please, find it.

My car was put together by myself and two of the oldest names in the mini game here in NSW.

Before you judge the workmanship and roadworthiness of someone elses car, consider your own Capt' HID.

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Will, I hope you got your answer because I'm about to lock this thread.

(get some P700's)

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