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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:51 pm 
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Im not trying to start anything here what the pros have said is correct.
I worked for a painter once who had been working for about 15 years in his shed at home painting probably 1 car a month and he used no mask at all :shock:
I tried watching a couple of times but fumes were too much after about 5 mins
Just pointing out that you wont die from spraying a car.
I agree its bad for you.
Puts on flameproof suit :lol:


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put the primer on today
feeling fine :)


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I have not read the full thread but i painted some wheels with 2 pack. i found with the dual respirator i couldnt buy filter cartridges to protect against the isocyanates. These are carcinogenic. I have painted my last lot of 2-pack ever, and have worked with acrylic for its flexibility in use, and a more genuine look. I once made a mistake of having a ground up rebuild of a low mileage Cooper S resprayed in 2-pak :( - for the record 2-pack is thumbs down for me on an old Mini. Keep the mask on and well-fitted all the time for peace of mind - if nothing else.

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OR PAY SOMEONE WHO IS A REPUTABLE PROFESSIONAL TO DO IT. NOT A JOB TO DO IN YOUR HOME GARAGE. VERY ILLEGAL. DON'T GET CAUGHT BY COUNCIL DOING IT.

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the only respirators that are good enough are ones you buy through automotive paint suppliers, not crappy bunnings spec ones.. i can be in a shed clear coating all day and not have any adverse effects, i cant even smell anything with my mask on..

if you had dramas with 2k then thats too bad and you obviously didnt use it properly. we have to give a lifetime warranty on the stuff at work, and we dont have come backs (none in the 6 years ive worked there) because we use good quality product, and prepare the job correctly. you cannot and will not go wrong if you do this.

one job at home will not destroy the world either.. just wet the floor and use fans to keep the overspray under control..


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I have been watching this closely and from a medical point of view. My background is medical laboratory science.

I have concerns about using cyanide based products without proper protection, preparation and bravado attitudes. As Meeni said one backyard spray job is not going to destroy the world and given proper care and attention to detail, nor is it going to harm the operator.

However at least know a bit about cyanide poisoning first before attempting to do the job. I could write a detailed essay but wikipedia has already done that in a more concise and clear way than I could.

Please read this and be aware and able to recognise the signs and symptoms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

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While they have similar sounding names isocyanates and cyanide are very different. You can't use information about cyanide to determine the toxicity of any particular product that contains isocyanates.

Pretty much every supplier of industrial or chemical products in Australia will have a safety data sheet for each product they sell. Usually they are available on-line. Amongst other things they carry information about safe exposure levels and appropriate protective equipment. They are well worth reading.

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Yeah Tim I realised that before I wrote what I did.

I am aware of the different polymer and chemical structures but is was more to raise attention to the fact that there is risks and attention to detail is important.

I fully agree - read the product data sheets on safe levels of exposure and take the appropriate safety steps with equipment.

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