Enlighten me, What class can it run in here in Aus?
We are all here in Oz. Hence it is called ausmini. It is worth parts value here, no more, no less.

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1970 Cooper S ex-Bathurst & ATCC
1964 Austin Cooper S ex-Group C race car
1967 Morris Cooper S ex-Group B
1962 Mini Speed sports sedan
1968-71 ex-Peter Manton Shell car

I'd leave it in New Zealand then, they apparently have race classes there that suit various historic Minis, unlike our Nb class for fake or real `UK style' Cooper Ss.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Smac is in NZ, hence his comment "several classes it could race in here" probably referred to NZ!

I have no idea about racing and rules in Australia etc. So dont jump on me

My logic says the original broadspeed would be classified as an historic race car and be allowed to race Appendix J because they were a model you could buy outright......

So couldnt you race this "copy" as a broadspeed as a J-car, just as every other j-car racing is a mocked up cooper s from a delux/k ??

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We are talking CAMs here.. some would say Logic plays no part.... as Syd and his Jem found....

Even though Syd's Jem is a Marcos clone - can't race it in Historics - though a Marcos could... (in Group S)

Most Historic classes require it to be the "Original car" that raced in the day and have a "Certificate of Description" that confirms this.....

or be on a list of approved vehicles for Group N and Group S ....

Spec Sheets :
For Group N "Touring" (production cars)
For Group S (Sports)
http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Historics/Logbooks_and_COD/Specification_Sheets.aspx

Ya by 'here' I mean where I am, and where the car is! Some of the comments above read as if the car is already in Aus We have several "you build it, we'll let you run it" classes here, plus the Super Minis themselves which have an open class. If it has a mini body you can run it, I very much doubt they'd object to a broadspeed.

Just seems to me that for anyone to want to take this to aussie to race, it would be for "oddity"sake, it will never make financial sense, so the price is irrelevant.

To me this is silly because nearly all the J-cars are mock-ups using deluxes, mini k's, coopers etc that are all badged as cooper S's, so are not a real car anyway....

But I suppose thay it would be an approved behicle for group N?

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i was totally aware that you were in NZ which is why I referred to the car being allowed to run here. Perhaps in NZ there is merit for a car like this and I am sure it is a fantastic car. In Aus it is superfluous. It doesnt have any real purpose and hence value. We are in Aus, and I think the conversation was directed to whether the car was good value at $25k to bring to Aus. Price is always relevant, particularly since the heading of the topic is questioning if its a good price. It hasnt sold in almost a year, whats that tell us about the price? If it was priced correctly it wouldnt be for sale anymore.

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1970 Cooper S ex-Bathurst & ATCC
1964 Austin Cooper S ex-Group C race car
1967 Morris Cooper S ex-Group B
1962 Mini Speed sports sedan
1968-71 ex-Peter Manton Shell car

was fully aware of this.

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1970 Cooper S ex-Bathurst & ATCC
1964 Austin Cooper S ex-Group C race car
1967 Morris Cooper S ex-Group B
1962 Mini Speed sports sedan
1968-71 ex-Peter Manton Shell car

It is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay on the open market. I think it is very cool and I am sure someone will pay for that factor above parts value. Who can blame the vendor for seeking the best he can for whatever the market is prepared to offer him.

Actually I think the conversation is directed at whatever we choose to direct it at.

I agree it's probably not worth imported to Aus, hence my initial comments. However I disagree that it is of no value. In either country it has the value of a well sorted race car in the class(es) it complies for. You're right it appears overpriced in the current market, otherwise it would have sold.

Please leave it in NZ, its a nice car to watch racing at our race circuits here in NZ.

I have brought a lotto ticket, so if i win I will buy it. Hint, hint to the lotto gods

Useful in Australia? Hillclimbs, club sprints, SOTS, motorkhana and having a ball exhibiting such a great looking car.

Low 'n' Blown (or Ken): Can the car be run in regularity events under CAMS?

It surely has some appeal and hence value. I agree its not the $25K 'cos someone would have snapped it up, and as others are saying its worth what someone will pay (the old adage...)

Whatever price, kept in current condition is sure to gain in value over time. That's my two cents worth.

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..still waiting for the Italian Job sequel to see if the bus went down

yes there are plenty of races for it here,,, but again some people value cars differently to others

Merry Christmas to all & everyone

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Hi Guys
To answer a few questionson here,
Class to run - At the moment ( Unless I can prove otherwise, see my last post ) the car is only eligable for Sports Sedan, as the Broadspeed ran here in Sports Closed which became Sports Sedan.
No it can't run Historics Nb etc, as above. Unfortunately.
Is it woth the money, well I think anyone would be hard pressed to build this car of this calibre for the price.
Would I buy this car? Yes in a heartbeat if I can just happen to fall over a small mound of cash thats in my way.
My 2 cents worth.
Thanks

Ian

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850 Morris Mini
Morris Mini Traveller
Mini sports Sedan