The CKD car number is much much higher than the Australian car number.
For example the CKD number is 277831 for Cooper#773. Have another example for a similar date car. Seems that later on the CKD number no longer appeared on the ID Plate (around Car #2500 (could well be 2000 as Morris suggests)

Thanks All.

I compared the "9" to my '64 850, and the bottom number "9's" look to be the same stamps, and in the right location.

I have recived several possible reasons why this has occured. It's within 3 bodies, so I'll accept the later number.

I'll be putting up a progress report in a couple weeks time in the Members Cars section.

In short, Its all primed except a few repairs I'll need an oxy for. Then I'm ready to paint.

My deadline is this years Bay to Birdwood event as the wife WILL be driving it.

Cheers All.

The numbers could be the Body and Car numbers ,as Cooper Car and Body numbers around 2000 and later have only a very small difference between them ( 3 would be about right) , not the 500 of later cars , which occured on only the last 100 or so for the Cooper .
Usually though the body number is on the rad shroud panel ,but I have seen them behind the ID plate ...................

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1965 Morris 850
1966 Morris Mini Minor
1967 Morris Cooper 'S'
1977 Leyland LS

Another thing to notice about the two numbers is the upper number has the red primer in the number. It was stamped before the car was painted. This was correct for a body number.
The lower number has no sign of paint in the number, it was stamped after the car was painted. This is correct for a car number.

Checked my restored 997 plate is 15xx body number is stamped the same under the tag looks like a smaller stamp and is not very straight there is nothing on radiator cowl never was and it's never been replaced unlike my 998 cooper which is stamped on the cowl ,Iv'e never removed the tag so i don't no what's under it

Thanks again All.

Cheers
Alex.

So in effect there was three different ways that the Cooper was stamped. Early, Mid and late.

I have a real early one in the late 500's but it's a challenge to get to I'll try tomorrow

I'm guessing it will have the UK number and the car number on the ID plate.
I'm hoping it will have the UK number stamped on the body, probably behind the ID plate.

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Does he visit WA ?

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1965 Morris 850
1966 Morris Mini Minor
1967 Morris Cooper 'S'
1977 Leyland LS

I'm new to Ausmini. It's taken a little while to get registered. So sorry for not getting into this conversation earlier. I have what I think is a Morris 850 from 1962 or 1963. I am currently doing a full restoration, and have found some numbers, that I would like your advice about.

For starters. There are 2 numbers on the firewall. But instead of being on the right of the speedo hole, they are on the left of the left side. One number is 1627, and the lower number is 15851. Then on the Radiator Cowling there is a third number - (Preceded by 05 at right angles to the other numbers) 29864.

To complete the mystery - the compliance plate states the following.
- Type "YMA 2S1"
- Car No. "119928/16278"
- Engine No. "8AMUH/345387"
- Colour "1 SAXON GREEN 3"

(I can't work out how to insert pictures - so if you could let me know how to do this, then I'll post the 3 pictures with this info on them.

Now while I was sandblasting the paint off, the original colour of the car is definitely Saxon Green. The car had since been painted Red and had a Clubman 998 engine. I think the compliance plate is not the original as it has been stamped - from the front (not reverse stamped from the rear). The compliance plate was also riveted on to the right side of the speedo and was crocked. I think it may have been re-registered at one stage, and the Car Number was made up to fit with modern day "VIN numbers".

I think the car is an original 850 because it has a "Magic Wand" gear change hole that has been poorly sealed and the hole for the gear selector is very poorly cut out and is very rough. (it now has had a remote gear change unit). The wiring loom (which is quite old) - seems to fit with a Morris 850 codes. It has rubber cones with no ridges under the floor pans for the hydro pipes.

So if any of you have any thoughts, I'd be very grateful. Also - how do you add photos so I can show you what I mean. Thanks in advance.

I can't help with the numbers, but on posting images, just refer to this page http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10405

Having said that, some people like to keep the last few numbers of the body number to themselves for various reasons, nothing a post edit and MSPaint won't fix.

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So what's the last thing you remember...

I'm pretty sure you were..

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This would all be correct for an early CKD 850 assembled in Australia.
Early cars had hand stamped ID plates with 2 sets of numbers as you describe. The number 16278 is the Australian Car Number and you will find that the number has also been stamped in the body (look closer and you may find a lightly stamped 8 in that number). The 15851 is possibly the body number which is often 500 or so different from the car Number. The number 119928 on the ID plate is the CKD number.

The numbers on the radiator shroud doesn't seem to fit with the car and may be because a later inner guard has been fitted due to accident damage?

I have a very early (1960) Australian assembled 850 and found another Car Number stamped in the rear floor directly behind the driver's seat.