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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:35 am 
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I've had a search on the QLD Transport Dept website but I can't find the info I want so I'm hoping some people on here can shed some light or give me a better idea on where to look for the info.
I'll be taking my engine out from 1275 to 1360cc, what dose QLD trans require for this to be legal?
Also dose changing the fueling system from carby to EFI require anything (as far as QLD transport is concerned)?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:43 am 
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Qld Transport recently adopted most of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Modificatios (see the federal transport site).

The qld rules are now generally aligned with the other eastern states.

Your engine mods don't count as it is just an overbore. Your car is pre ADR so efi is ok too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:51 am 
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The reason I'm curious is I already have a LA1 mod (1275 into a 62-63 Morris 850). I just wasn't sure if further mods on an engine already approved modded engine would cause problems.
I'll see what I can find on the National site.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:57 am 
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you don`t need a blue plate for any of that stuff Kenno... didn`t even need ti for the 1275 donk

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:43 pm 
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TheMiniMan wrote:
you don`t need a blue plate for any of that stuff Kenno... didn`t even need ti for the 1275 donk

The 1275 and disc brakes were not a factory option for the 850 so depending on how the rules are interpreted (at the time of approval) it could be deemed necessary.
Take seat belts for example, old static lap sash belts don't put as much force/load into the mounts as retractable lap sash belts. That's why Leyland strengthened and changed the mounting location on the B pillar when they installed retractable belts as standard, The car wasn't originally designed to take those loads/stresses.
It's a stupid little rule and it can easily be ignored but at the time I put the engine and brakes in (5 years ago) that's how we (me and the engineer) interpreted the rules.
I just read some engine upgrade laws and they say more than 20% power increase requires approval under the LA mod codes. That did not mention ADR's so is it applied to pre ADR cars or all cars?
Either way my car has the mod plate so I have to deal with it :roll: . I could have said nothing and my car would still be on paper as far as the transport and insurance company as a 848cc powered car. If I then told them it's a 1275cc they'd ask "how did the size increase?" and now when I increase to 1360cc I have two choices, (A) don't tell them or (B) tell them the engine is modded and it then has to be approved under the rules that apply to my car.
I just need to find out what the rules are in writing so I can do it correctly.

As far as I know their is not a mod plate engineer on here so that's why I'm asking for links and not a yes or no answer. Don't take that the wrong way I still want opinions/info but if I can see it in official print than that'd be ideal.

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you really need to talk with our guy, he`s one of the best (if not "THE BEST") dept of Tpt engineers in QLD

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no BullS$it,,, just the plain & simple facts

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:00 pm 
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Thanks Matt.

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They are pen pushing bureaucrats. You tell them nothing when you bore or stroke it. As far as they would know, a 1412 etc is still 1275, that's what it says on back of the block.

If it was an 850 body I would tell them yes, the motor and brakes are changed to bring it into spec with a 1275 Cooper S. This works anywhere else in Oz. It's not as though you are going VTEC or 4ETFE power.

A Mini bodyshell is a Mini bodyshell, unless Qld is somehow different (apart from being 1 hr behind). :lol:

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TheMiniMan wrote:
you really need to talk with our guy, he`s one of the best (if not "THE BEST") dept of Tpt engineers in QLD

Earl Gilcrest
ph 0417 229 723

no BullS$it,,, just the plain & simple facts

Gave him a call and he said/backed up what I have done and said. Seeing as the 1275cc engine was not factory available or an option for my 1962 Morris 850 it should be mod plated. Any further internal engine mods (like boring, stroking etc) do not require mod approval and seeing as most minis are pre emission ADR's they do not require emission testing (just sound testing if your really keen to be 100% legal).

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