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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:23 pm 
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I am doing a rod change box for a mate, and pulling it apart I found this. Looks like the main shaft has been machined down and a new bit machined up.

It's a neat fit, but does turn and looks like it's been fretting a bit, and not as hard as the original shaft.

It measures 13.88mm (meant to be 14mm, right?)

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is this normal practice if a shaft is damaged?

should I be concerned?

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yeah 18mm is the A+ size

so it could be to mix-n-match or maybe just to repair a worn out set

either way i don`t like it spinning & if it`s not "HARD" then it`s rubbish :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:35 pm 
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yeah 18mm is the A+ size

so it could be to mix-n-match or maybe just to repair a worn out set

either way i don`t like it spinning & if it`s not "HARD" then it`s rubbish :-)


sorry, OD is 13.8mm, ID is something like 10.5mm, it's a normal A series input shaft

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ah , my mistake,,, where`s my glasses???

:-)

Yeah ok it`s got to have just been an attempt to repair then

seen em plenty times before, some good , some not so good :-)

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oops, sorry Matt, forgot to reply - thanks muchly

There is a stamping on the casing from a mini specialist I trust, so I think it might be one of the 'good' ones - will stick with it

I measured a standard shaft and it is the same size

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I reckon i can see a lip on the sleeve in the first pic. But that is just from where i'm sitting.


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Someone has sleeved it as I do for repair, but they have NOT used a bearing inner ring. These are hardened RC62 or better for running rollers on. The ones I use are p/no IRT 1020-2.
These rings are 14mm OD and 10mm ID x 20mm long. They are a bit long but I grind the end back flush, once fitted.

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drmini in aust wrote:
Someone has sleeved it as I do for repair, but they have NOT used a bearing inner ring. These are hardened RC62 or better for running rollers on. The ones I use are p/no IRT 1020-2.
These rings are 14mm OD and 10mm ID x 20mm long. They are a bit long but I grind the end back flush, once fitted.


interesting - I'll ring my bearing man

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lip


there is a lip there...

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Give them .0005" (1/2 a thou) interference fit. I warm them a little with the hot air gun, then push them on with the tailstock. A drop of oil on the shaft helps.

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The fact that i can see a lip and drmini says it's 14mm, not 13.8 tells me it's stuffed :shock:

So i guess the shaft you checked the measurement against is stuffed as well :lol:

This is of course presuming you are adhering to correct measuring practices :P


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mini_mad_matt wrote:
The fact that i can see a lip and drmini says it's 14mm, not 13.8 tells me it's stuffed :shock:

So i guess the shaft you checked the measurement against is stuffed as well :lol:

This is of course presuming you are adhering to correct measuring practices :P


it might have been 13.9, but yeah... there's some wear there

I didn't want to strip the mainshaft! the synchros are all good, it was just a clean out and replace the big bearings :(

grrr :roll:

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drmini in aust wrote:
Give them .0005" (1/2 a thou) interference fit. I warm them a little with the hot air gun, then push them on with the tailstock. A drop of oil on the shaft helps.


thanks Kev

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