Folks,
Wondering if I've got the inner and outer syncro hubs oriented properly?

Also do the s'lector forks and reverse gear appear to be assembled correctly?

(Should've taken more disassembly photos!).






Thanks.
Matt

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

The 1st/2nd synchro hub (top photo) is wrong, the inner is wrong way round. 3rd/4th hub is correct and the selector forks also look correct, tho I haven't done a rod change for a while.

Way to remember the orientation of the synchro hubs is that the long side of the inner goes with the long side of the outer (where the selector forks run). Can see this for the 3rd/4th hub (second photo).

_________________
Steve

Matt, I've just rebuilt my pre A+ rod box about 2 weeks ago, took me ages to figure out 1st/2nd inner outer. I eventually called Matt Read "TheMiniMan"!



Justminis sums it up....as TheMiniMan told me!

It's the same for the 1st/2nd as 3rd/4th, only the long side of the inner on 1st/2nd is not as obvious as 3rd/4th.

Cheers Shane

_________________
If it's not a Cooper S, the mini was designed to be modified!

Thanks a lot guys.
At some point it would have become obvious I'm sure, but this has saved me some time!

Cheers
Matt

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

Well I've got the basic box reassembled, but wonder if I've got a problem. Hand shifting (by pushing on the syncro hubs) reveals an increase in resistance with each gear change. Should it be easy to turn over by hand in each and every gear?
I have been stingy with the oil on assembly; could it just need a sump full of oil?
Thanks a lot.
Matt

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

can be a grabby 3rd gear syncro

edit--> for whatever reason ?

_________________
No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Have you torqued up the 3rd motion input & pinion nuts? With them loose as Matt says, 3rd gear syncro will grab.

If they're torqued, then it makes sense you get more resistance with each gear selected. Think about what the gearbox / torque multiplier does, same as your old 10 spd pushy, in 1st gear, easy to turn the crank with your hand from stand still, in 10th gear heaps harder to turn the crank by hand from stand still!

Cheers Shane

_________________
If it's not a Cooper S, the mini was designed to be modified!

Input and pinion nuts torqued up.
Was wondering about the torque multiplier effect, maybe its just that.

Matt,
What would cause 3rd syncro to be grabby? It does have new baulk rings.

Thanks...

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

With no oil in the box, the force of putting it into gear can make the baulk ring stick temporarily to the gear.
This is normal, it just means the taper on each part matches perfectly. This is often not the case with current aftermarket baulk rings; I have some new ones here that are not only the wrong taper angle but are oval as well. [edit] I did buy them a while ago...

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thanks Doc, that's good to know.
I got these ones from MED, as I was getting an A+ layshaft from them at the same time.
They promised me they were good, and maybe they are!

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

Well I've just resolved the problem I had; which was a grabby fourth baulk ring. No idea what the cause was, as they was supposedly good quality MED jobbies, and all measured up roughly the same, but swapping it out for one of the old ones sorted it out. Now turns over quite nicely in each gear and nootral.
I wasn't going to mess around swapping all the baulk rings around looking for a result - just took the option which I thought most likely to allow me to progress!

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine

Nice find Matt. 4th syncro doesn't get a huge work out as compared to 1st & 2nd, so a good 2nd hand syncro should be well up for the job!

Cheers Shane

_________________
If it's not a Cooper S, the mini was designed to be modified!

That's also my reckoning Shane. Still can't quite work out WHY that baulk ring could be trouble, but it was, so that's all I NEED to know.
Hope to get power plant back in on monday. Been off the road a month, and I miss it, esp. now that the cooler weather is with us!

_________________
'68 Deluxe w/Metro engine