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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:51 pm 
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Yes the Whole mk 1.5 is a Joke. Transitional changes do not make it any different to what is stamped on the car. What the body is stamped is what it is.

I don't know Cooper S but...

Look at GT's. You compare a 71 model to a late 72, 1/73 model. You could say there completely different cars. but they are all just a clubman GT.

Some Transitions include:
* centre ignition - column ignition
* externally regulated Alternator - internally regulated
* white needled clocks - orange needled clocks
* low back basketweave - headrest basketweave - headrest non basketweave
* 9f block - 1200 block - solid sided block
* PCV valve - feed back into carbs via Y piece - feed back into carbs via 4 piece
* small interior mirror - break-off safety larger mirror
* no holed inner guards - holed inner guards

These are all just clubman GT's no mk1.1, mk1.2, mk1.3..... etc. All stamped YG2S8 so all just clubman GT

Same is with cooper S. Either stamped YKG2S1 or YG2S4. Despite whether they are late mk1 or an early mk2 using a number of mk1 bits. Never any mention of a mk1.5...... Only early/late Mk 1 or early/late mk2

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Very well said :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:23 pm 
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Ausmini rule No. 20 - Effective immediately. There will be no mention whatsoever of the Mk 1.5 Cooper.
This shall be policed vigorously by the various members of the forum. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:33 pm 
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I could have the spell checker change it automatically...?

I like the term 1.5. Its easier than saying early to late 1969 Mark 2.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:26 pm 
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Whilst not wanting to prolong this thread any more than necessary, I have always understood the term was used to describe early MK II Cooper S's (YG2S4) that had some Mark 1 parts, specifically 3 speed gearbox, metal heater, and maybe generator (?). I didn't think it applied to the Mark 1 Cooper S (YKG2S2) no matter what parts it had.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:59 pm 
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brett wrote:
Hi guys, just uploaded a new brochure. THe best one with a Cooper S engine bay I have ever seen..

Now were they or not, standard. I always thought it was an aftermarket accessory on the clutch and brake master cylinders, but I doubt that they would have fitted these for the brochure..
ALso I thought that the hose clamps were double wire.. Once again different... :? :? :?

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I always thought the single wire on the fuel hose clamps were correct, like those on that car...

but I'm curious about the push-button starter solenoid on there, does anyone else have one like that?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:52 pm 
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simon k wrote:
brett wrote:
Hi guys, just uploaded a new brochure. THe best one with a Cooper S engine bay I have ever seen..

Now were they or not, standard. I always thought it was an aftermarket accessory on the clutch and brake master cylinders, but I doubt that they would have fitted these for the brochure..
ALso I thought that the hose clamps were double wire.. Once again different... :? :? :?

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=84039


I always thought the single wire on the fuel hose clamps were correct, like those on that car...

but I'm curious about the push-button starter solenoid on there, does anyone else have one like that?


They are talking about the Rad hose clamps not the fuel clamps.

The solenoid is another item that changed. Mine has the round push button one fitted but I dont think its right, Mine is late 68 and it should have this one I believe. I've seen lots of cars with both types fitted.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:14 pm 
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phillb wrote:
simon k wrote:
but I'm curious about the push-button starter solenoid on there, does anyone else have one like that?


The solenoid is another item that changed. Mine has the round push button one fitted but I dont think its right, Mine is late 68 and it should have this one I believe. I've seen lots of cars with both types fitted.

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Mine has this type but it has a push button. I should check the date on it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:58 pm 
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Yes. I've seen original ones with a push button.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:04 pm 
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I am Reasonably sure that the Round bodied solenoid was changed to the square type
around the middle of 1967, However the first squared bodied solenoids still allowed You
to press the button, which had a rubber cover over it. some time later the button was
covered in solid plastic so You could no longer press the button in
I hope this is of some help

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:46 pm 
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My unmolested Cooper S is October 1967 delivery date and it has the round bodied solenoid. It also has the master cylinder extensions just as in the brochure. I don't know if they were fitted by the first owner though who I bought the car off in 1985. I have always wondered if they were original. I am curious too as to what type of spark plug caps are fitted in the brochure photo?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:04 pm 
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John Smidt wrote:
I am Reasonably sure that the Round bodied solenoid was changed to the square type
around the middle of 1967, However the first squared bodied solenoids still allowed You
to press the button, which had a rubber cover over it. some time later the button was
covered in solid plastic so You could no longer press the button in
I hope this is of some help


Yes, I recently saw a very original car with the square solenoid but still with the button. Never realised they had a button.

I believe the square type were also usually mounted with the terminals to the top.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:05 pm 
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twintank wrote:
My unmolested Cooper S is October 1967 delivery date and it has the round bodied solenoid. It also has the master cylinder extensions just as in the brochure. I don't know if they were fitted by the first owner though who I bought the car off in 1985. I have always wondered if they were original. I am curious too as to what type of spark plug caps are fitted in the brochure photo?


Yes the different plug caps are another interesting one.

Brett can you see what design those ones are in the brochure??

How's your memory Mr Smidt :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:18 pm 
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They look like a champion one, but without the white writing... but say Champion.. But not enough detail to say for sure

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:19 pm 
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twintank wrote:
My unmolested Cooper S is October 1967 delivery date and it has the round bodied solenoid. It also has the master cylinder extensions just as in the brochure. I don't know if they were fitted by the first owner though who I bought the car off in 1985. I have always wondered if they were original. I am curious too as to what type of spark plug caps are fitted in the brochure photo?


Is your car any where near mine? 3906?

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