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 Post subject: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:06 pm 
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Hi all,

So...I've had one of those days...all started well with the hanging of the passenger door, slight adjustment required, but was happy with the result. A quick "well that was easy" comment to my right hand man and we started to tackle the drivers door. We couldn't for the life of us get it to fit, the chrome trim is rubbing at the A pillar end to the point where the door won't shut and it is adjusted all the way to the rear with no more room for adjustment. It's almost as if the door won't fit in the hole. Has anyone ever had this problem or heard of doors not fitting?? Any advice? I've removed the chrome trim now and the door shuts, but is still rubbing at the A pillar end. :evil: grrrrrrr


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:53 pm 
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The door aperture is probably out of shape due to accident damage.... Even a light hit in the front can and often will move the Wimdscreen Pillar.
Mini Body shells are very easy to bend in this area and poor fitting doors are very common,
have a look around next time you go to a mini show, you will be surprised how many cars have bent door apertures and the owners dont even know...

Good news is it can be fixed, by someone who knows what they are doing, with a Porta Power and some rubber blocks......

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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:40 pm 
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maybe a sill question but have u got the right hindges in the right spots i no my brother when he was younger his doors would never shut right and he had the hinges in the wrong spot for example upper right on the lower right ect might worth checking this should be on the back of the hindges


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:03 pm 
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Thanks for the replies! Yeh hinges are definitely on correctly so it must be as sitnlo62 suggests. I've attatched some pictures

Here's the left door, pretty happy with that
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And the right after I removed the trim, with battle scars and all. Seems to have a reasonable gap, but with the trim on the door it won't actually close at all
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Here's where it is rubbing, even with the trim off
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And no room for adjustment at the rear of the door
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Thinking I may need another trip to the painter....


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:30 pm 
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Ouch to the battle scars...

Are they the doors that came off it.. prior to re spray


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Might pay to measure the door aperture and the shell from side to side from the front guards back to the windscreen. It looks like it has been nudged pushing the A-pilar back. Check if the front subframe is square and the bracket on the body where it bolts to the subframe at the front on either side. The difficulty is giving the car a stretch back or porta powering the aperture without cracking any paint.

Don't stress too much about it, many Ferrari's are inches apart in length side to side....seriously!

Take it to a panel beater!


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:49 pm 
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I was at the end of my tether when those scars happened boomini...rounded the afternoon off nicely...I'm pretty sure the door was replaced because of rust in the original...didn't think the door would be out by that much though!!

Monaco, Did think about that but the subframes went in without any problems at all, and the front subframe bolts have exactly the same amount of shims. Think a panel beater needs to work his black magic on this one...


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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:53 pm 
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My thoughs are because everything was hand built back in the day there might be a bit of difference between doors/shells.

Btw looks really really nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:18 pm 
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G'day mate just a thought I had a door and tried it on one of my minis and it disnt line up too well at all. tried a different door much better :) you probably should have checked to see if doors fitted before painting. And tried a couple of different doors

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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:09 pm 
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Looking at the waist rail trim at the bottom of the window aperture, it appears to me the door is not quite right. The trim seems too short at the quarter vent end. As suggested by Monaco, check the door aperture distance diagonally from the lower corner to where its binding & compare with other side. I am betting it will be OK. I have been informed it is not uncommon for doors to vary in size.

I feel your pain. I have had the same problem - passenger door fitted purrfect, driver's door to me 2 weeks to get right. Fortunately I was able to get it to fit by moving the hinges slightly forward after adjusting the holes in the A panel, but this will not solve your problem obviously. Another door may be your only solution if my analysis is correct.

Don't lose heart - rest of your work looks excellent.

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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:28 am 
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Put your windscreen in before you start to move the A panel
This will help you see if the pillar is out of alignment or not
and if so will show by how much

Use a old windscreen for this , not a new one , as some of the new screens are not
exactly right

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 Post subject: Re: Panel Gap
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Thanks for all the advice...I'm hoping the door won't have to be replaced. Will have a chat with the panel beater and see what he says, in the mean time, it's off to get an interior.....
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