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 Post subject: DHLA45 Dellorto on 1098?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:24 am 
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Hi guys, I know I ask heps of questions for a newbie on the forum, so why not ask another one!
I tried the search function but coudltn find what I was after.

so I kind of have two projects on the go now.

a 1098 into my primerd deluxe body fast paced done dirt cheap build

and my 1360 in my 850, super long term bank emptying build that will probably take another 3 years or more.

I curently have a 450DCOE dellorto carbie on the 1360, seenig as the 1360 will be getting a new head and fuel injection. . . and the single SU on the 1098 being stuffed.. . why not put the dellorto on the 1098?

initialy this wasnt an option as i thought i has a 998 untill I was told it was a 1098 *YAY!*

what is the best way to setup the 1098 with the dellorto, not so much for power but to still give me decent economy and a powerful enough drive to not feel like I am driving a lory up a steep hill?

I have a set of extractors for the 1098 also. from what I know, no other work has been doen to the 1098.

or am I better off trying to swap/sell the dellorto and get twin su's?

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:06 am 
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I assume you've got a Dellorto DHLA45 (45mm) rather than a 45DCOE, as that's a Weber?

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:09 am 
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timmy201 wrote:
I assume you've got a Dellorto DHLA45 (45mm) rather than a 45DCOE, as that's a Weber?


hmmm, I may need to check then, as i was told Dellorto DCOE45. . . . previous owner was adament it was dellorto so chances are its a DHLA45 then. . .

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:16 am 
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Dellorto DHLA45 can be made to work on a 1098, but I'd not put bigger than 32mm choke tubes in it.
I would keep the same emulsion tubes you have, fit 32mm chokes and start off with 140 main jets and 180 air correctors.

I've done a couple of motors over the years with DHLA40s and they went OK.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:24 am 
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drmini in aust wrote:
Dellorto DHLA45 can be made to work on a 1098, but I'd not put bigger than 32mm choke tubes in it.
I would keep the same emulsion tubes you have, fit 32mm chokes and start off with 140 main jets and 180 air correctors.

I've done a couple of motors over the years with DHLA40s and they went OK.


would I be better off trying to swap it for a set of twin SU's then?

is my consumption going to be as awfull as it was on the 1360? if so i may steer clear. . the 1360 was comming on 20l/100km :S

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A single 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 su would be fine, the 1098 doesn't need any more than that. I wouldn't bother with twin su's either spend the time and money getting the Dellorto running or just pick up a su carby and set that up like factory std.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:12 pm 
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Kennomini wrote:
A single 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 su would be fine, the 1098 doesn't need any more than that. I wouldn't bother with twin su's either spend the time and money getting the Dellorto running or just pick up a su carby and set that up like factory std.


that was another thought, i have the standard carbie, but tis stuffed, 0 oil in it and the piston thing (sorry im not good with carbies) is jammed up, would a rebuild kit through the SU be enough to sort it out then?

just be a shame to let the dellorto go to waste, but if its too big then its pointless to run it :)

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:55 pm 
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I ran a dellorto 45 on a 1100 for a couple of years. As said by Kev it does need some work to get it to run right. I now run the same dellorto on the 1330.

It isn't a simple matter of bolt on, you have to have the manifold kicked up a few degrees to get it to fit. Also the issue of linkages etc. But otherwise it's a great soundtrack!

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:31 pm 
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Running chokes 34mm or smaller, a 40 Dellorto or Weber outflows a 45 Dellorto or Weber.
[BTW 34 chokes is about as big as a 40 can use].

But if you've got a 45, why not run with it.
Fuel economy isn't that horrendous, IF it is jetted for the street rather than high rpm HP numbers.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:16 pm 
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You'll have to re choke and re jet the 45 so a suggestion may be to get a 40 and use that. I have 2 DCOE40 carbs that I got relatively cheaply as they are missing some bits like jets so they are around.

Ill part with mine for what I paid if you choose to go that route.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:48 am 
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Mokesta wrote:
You'll have to re choke and re jet the 45 so a suggestion may be to get a 40 and use that. I have 2 DCOE40 carbs that I got relatively cheaply as they are missing some bits like jets so they are around.

Ill part with mine for what I paid if you choose to go that route.

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I wouldnt go out and buy a Dellorto or Webber, im only asking the question as I have efectively a spare 45 Dellorto :)

Looks like I may be best off having the knackerd SU rebuilt, but then again if its cheeaper to get the new chokes and jets for the Dellorto? . . .

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I'd put 32mm chokes in the Dellorto. They are not that dear.
Once jetted right it will stay in tune.

Parts like choke tubes are iffy to get here sometimes, so I buy parts & jets from from http://www.dellorto.co.uk.

Chokes are GBP15.70 ea, + postage.
http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/p ... ectionID=1

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:38 am 
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drmini in aust wrote:
I'd put 32mm chokes in the Dellorto. They are not that dear.
Once jetted right it will stay in tune.

Parts like choke tubes are iffy to get here sometimes, so I buy parts & jets from from http://www.dellorto.co.uk.

Chokes are GBP15.70 ea, + postage.
http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/p ... ectionID=1


thanks ill check that out :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:16 am 
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okay So I am going to bump this little thread up again with another question rather than a new thread. .

what sort of consumption figures L/100km should i expect from a presumed stock 1098 with extractors and the aforementioned Dellorto?
and how will it differ from consumption if I was to say get a stock carbie to put on it?
with rising fuel prices and considering i have 0 need for this car to be fast, I have the triumph for that and/or the 1360 mini, this one is purely going to be a daily drive and run around car and a commuter for when i don't feel like riding the bike (today would have been one of those days if i had it running! my fingers froze to the handlebars!!!)

I get about 5.7L/100Km on the bike (yeah to to fuel efficient but she makes good power :P) and about 11L/100km in the Defender on Diesel. . when the 1360cc mini was going I was lucky if I got 20L/100km with the Dellorto how it is :S so. . . what should i be expecting from the 1098?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:59 am 
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I have no idea what economy I get with the Dellorto on my 1360, but since I rejetted it to be 12.5:1 A/F ratio at full throttle, it is way better. You can expect to use a bit more than an SU, if it's using 2x as much you are running too rich.

Danny's 1098 Moke (40 Weber) was running at 10.8-11.0:1 A/F full throttle yesterday. It has 150 main jets in. Too rich.. he's now buying some 140s and 145s.

[edit] I have edited this post, as when written I had unfairly attributed this Weber richness to a Mini shop's tuning. However, I was not then in full possession of the facts, so I apologise unreservedly to those concerned..

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