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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:34 am 
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Not all that familiar with Commodores, but I'm struggling to understand what he has done wrong.
Did that car come with the straight 6 blue motor and he replaced it with a V6 Buick motor?
And it's almost a bolt in swap?
No heavier and no dramatic increase in horsepower? Not like going from an 1100 to 1310 with a BMW head.
Besides the sin of owning a Commodore....What has he done wrong?

BTW the car is a lovely colour 8)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:49 am 
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I have a soft spot for the VH commode also, had a 3300cc straight six as Mg said, i think two different perspectives here... 1)what is historic?? as per plates qualify 2) does it or should it be engineered?

I agree with Morris and MG, I don't think this is a good or clear cut example of a rodder instead of a period car... I am presuming it got its historic plates before the engine swap., but who knows


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:00 pm 
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I'm in QLD, my 1962 Morris 850 has a 1275 motor (1990 A+ Rover) I had it engineered because a 1275 was not available at time of production as stated in the rules "if it could have been fitted at the factory at the time of production it's allowed".
This Commodore should have a mod plate. Wether or not it should be on historic rego with an engine transplant is the main question.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:15 pm 
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Kennomini wrote:
I'm in QLD, my 1962 Morris 850 has a 1275 motor (1990 A+ Rover) I had it engineered because a 1275 was not available at time of production as stated in the rules "if it could have been fitted at the factory at the time of production it's allowed".
This Commodore should have a mod plate. Wether or not it should be on historic rego with an engine transplant is the main question.

My 68 deluxe body which is now a Cooper S replica has a 1275cc engine. It's on historic plates. I only drive it once a month or so. I couldn't justify paying for full rego! I hope they don't kill it for us.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:05 pm 
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MG Rocket wrote:
Not all that familiar with Commodores, but I'm struggling to understand what he has done wrong.
Did that car come with the straight 6 blue motor and he replaced it with a V6 Buick motor?
And it's almost a bolt in swap?
No heavier and no dramatic increase in horsepower? Not like going from an 1100 to 1310 with a BMW head.
Besides the sin of owning a Commodore....What has he done wrong?

BTW the car is a lovely colour 8)


Ummmmm..there is a vast difference between the asthmatic 3300 Blue and a modern V6....bags more power for a start :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:13 pm 
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9YaTaH wrote:
MG Rocket wrote:
Not all that familiar with Commodores, but I'm struggling to understand what he has done wrong.
Did that car come with the straight 6 blue motor and he replaced it with a V6 Buick motor?
And it's almost a bolt in swap?
No heavier and no dramatic increase in horsepower? Not like going from an 1100 to 1310 with a BMW head.
Besides the sin of owning a Commodore....What has he done wrong?

BTW the car is a lovely colour 8)


Ummmmm..there is a vast difference between the asthmatic 3300 Blue and a modern V6....bags more power for a start :D

The Buick V6 is actually older than the Red/Blue/Black 202/3300 motor.

A 1999 1275 A plus is a lot different to a 1961 850 with more than double the power but nobody here seems to see any problem with fitting one under club rego.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:37 pm 
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The 3800 V6 has about the same power output as the top-spec 5000 V8 available for the VH (but not the HDT version) so the power increase shouldn't be a concern and in any case he carried across the brakes etc from the VN donor, so they should be up to the job.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:05 am 
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And to the ebay add i dont think the plates and rego can be passed on to the new owner if its like the scheme in nsw

Certainly not in Vic; to be eligible for club reg. the owner must be a member of a VicRoads-affiliated club.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:00 pm 
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In Vic the engine can't be modified to over 20% power without engineering (and stay legal), any mods must be available to the model and type of the time blah blah. It's not a matter of conjecture it's a matter of what the rules say.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonl ... hicles.pdf

Specifically says you cant put a Cooper S 1275 engine in a deluxe or a LS1275 in a 71 Clubman or raise the engine power more then 20% above standard specifications without an engineers cert.

So when the police pull you over and slap you with an unroadworthy for the BMW head or the Cooper engine and you say it was rego'd you really dont have a leg to stand on! (you may at best get back some rego but I doubt it) unless it's engineered of course.


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