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 Post subject: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 am 
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Hi all where does everyone get all there nuts, bolts, screws, clips etc for when you are doing a full nut and bolt restoration on a morris mini deluxe.
Cheers Hayden

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:57 am 
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84294

it's a heavy kit, the freight is the nasty bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:59 am 
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This is another one, its in the How-To.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=84418

You can take your bolts as you collect them, including washers, spring washers, plates and fabrications etc off to a Zinc Plater to have them replated. Throw everything in is my advice, exclude the hi-tensile head bolts, they won't retain their tensile strength, but everything else will come up great.

A 20 litre bucket cost 80 dollars last time. That's maybe 20 or 30 kilograms of stuff. They look a million dollars, and its cheaper in all by half maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:33 pm 
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Mick for a noob like myself how do you tell the difference between hi tensile and a normal bolt?

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:07 pm 
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Location: Under the bonnet son!
Bolts are marked with strikes on the bolt head, Like in this link. They're usually black in finish, like a head bolt or wheel stud for example.

http://www.hi-tensilebolt.com.au/Head%20Markings.html

The ones to not include off the top of my head would be the head bolts/studs, as well as the big end bolts/studs, main bearing bolts/studs, and their respective nuts. Also the steering column pinch bolt, brake caliper bolts, steering arm bolts, wheel studs, in fact any part on the brakes except the backing plates or dust covers which come up great.

Everything else on the car can be thrown through the process. Then I sort them into tubs at the back end ready for use. Years later I am still running off the profits of an 80 dollar investment in plating a bucket full of bits.
Springs need to be put in an oven at hi temp (max on a home oven) for a couple of hours to be normalised, but the plater will usually do this for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:22 am 
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Hi Mick,
where did you get your plating done?


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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:17 am 
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You will need to go to Melbourne or Sydney most likely and you need to ask for a barrel plating process for the bucket of nuts and bolts. I was living in Melbourne until 3 years ago, so had them done at Alliance Electroplating at Campbellfield.

There are plenty about, look up electroplating on Google Maps and start calling around.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:37 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:13 am 
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Mini Fasteners for 850/Cooper

Rear Subframe

2of 5/16 UNF x 2 1/2 High Tensile Set Screw Zinc Plated (front trunion long)
2of 5/16 UNF x 1.1/4 High Tensile Set Screw Zinc Plated (HTSSF516114Z) (front trunion short)
2of 5/16 x 2 1/2 UNF High Tensile Bolt Only Zinc Plated (HTBOF516212Z) (rear trunion long)
2of 5/16 x 1 1/4 UNF High Tensile Bolt Only Zinc Plated (HTBOF516114Z) (rear trunion short)
8of 5/16 UNF x 3/4 High Tensile Set Screw Zinc Plated (HTSSF51634Z) (trailing arm support bracket to subframe)
4of 5/16 x 1 x 12G Engineers Flat Round Washers Zinc Plated Need to source
4of 5/16 UNF Nyloc Nuts Zinc Plated (NNF516)
2 of 5/16UNF x 3 ¾ High Tensile Set Screw Zinc Plated (handbrake quadrant) HTBOF516334Z
Note: All bolts SAE Grade 5


Front subframe/ Steering

6of 5/16 UNF x 3/4 High Tensile Set Screw Zinc Plated (HTSSF51634Z)
4of 5/16 x 7/8 x 18G Engineers Flat Round Washers Zinc Plated
6of 5/16 UNF Nyloc Nuts Zinc Plated (NNF516)
Note: All bolts SAE Grade 5

1 of ¼ UNF x1 3/8” Grade8 (steering column pinch bolt) 11/2 “ available needs to be cut down

Interior

Door rubber scuff plate
8of 6G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS6G12Z) $2.42/100

Rear quaterlight windows
14of 6G x 1/2 Grade 304 Stainless Steel Countersunk Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws (SSCPSTS3046G12) $6.16/100

Heater to dash panel
2of 10G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS10G12Z)

Companion box trim fixing

Heater vent fixing
4of 8-32 UNC x 1/2 Raised Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Chrome Plated

Doors and catches (sliding window type)
Bailey channel to door channel
6of 6G x 3/8 Grade 304 Stainless Steel Countersunk Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws (SSCPSTS3046G38) $5.94/100
Door pocket trim fixing
6of 6G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS6G12Z) $2.42/100
Pocket moulding
Clip 13H524

Striker plate
6of 8-32 UNC x 3/4 Raised Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated (CPMTC8G34Z)
Note: trim to 0.6” and should be Raised CS for originality Need to source

Buffer to door
4of 6-32 UNC x 3/4 Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated (CPMTC6G34Z)
Buffer retainer to door pillar
4of 6-32 UNC x 1/4 Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated (CPMTC6G14Z)
Retaining straps
8of ¼ UNF x 0.85 Raised Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Chrome Plated
Locks
6of 8-32 UNC x 1” Raised Countersunk Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated Need to source
2of 8-32 UNC Gr.5 Hex Nut Zinc Plated (HNC8GZ) AU$42.46 (per 100)
6of 5mm External Lock Washers Zinc Plated (ESWM5Z) AU$1.85 (per 100)


Upper finisher clip (Cooper only)
13H525

Instruments and Electrical
Speedo cowl to dash panel
4of 8-32 UNC x 1/2 Pan head Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated Need to source
Switch panel mounting
2of 8-32 UNC x 1/2 Pan head Phillips Metal Threads Chrome Plated Need to source
Front parking lamp
6of 6G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS6G12Z) $2.42/100
Headlamp mounting
8of 8G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS8G12Z) 43.52/100
Regulator mounting
2of 10G x 1.1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS10G112Z)
Fuse box mounting
1of 10G x 1/2 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS10G12Z)
Dip switch
2of 10G x 1 Pan Head Phillips Self Tapping Screws Zinc Plated (PPSTS10G1Z)
Loom main earth
1of ¼ UNF x3/8 Pan head Phillips Metal Threads Zinc Plated Need to source


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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:23 am 
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Avin Plating in Melbourne quoted me about $50 for 8-10kg of nuts and bolts. He made it very clear that they cannot have any paint on them, but general grease and road grime should be ok.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:52 am 
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Thanks willy, I might steal the list to add to the How-To if that's ok.

Yeah, they get narky and may reject the bucket if its all too dirty. I can understand why, it ruins their cleaning baths unnecessarily. I soak my bucket in a few litres of petrol to remove the worst of the oil and grease before handing them over.

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 Post subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:51 pm 
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Mick,
Happy to have it added if it helps out. All of these fasteners can easily be sourced locally.


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