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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:20 pm 
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Hello,

i'm after a little advice with regards to lead additives and lead substitutes.

Is it better to have an additive than a substitute?

Eventually is wear inevitable?

Just wondering what experiences you guys have had with different kinds and what your opinions are about them.

I'm not sure if Australia is the same as the UK with regards to lead additive, it's pretty hard to get hold of and no where near as readily available as substitute.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:24 pm 
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Flashlube seems to work OK...google it for outlets in WA.

I suppose the most important thing you should looking into is air filtration if you have lots of that red stuff around...change your filter/s regularly.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:31 pm 
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To be honest I used to run flashlube but after speaking to a few racers and others mini folk who say they have never used any additives I gave up putting it in years ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:37 pm 
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Babes wrote:
To be honest I used to run flashlube but after speaking to a few racers and others mini folk who say they have never used any additives I gave up putting it in years ago.


Racers who use ultra clean burning AVGAS or similar? and people who don't use their race cars as daily drivers :?:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:50 pm 
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Repco or AutoPro in Karratha should stock Flash Lube, if not $26.50 for a litre (which will last forever) with free delivery on eBay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FLASHLUBE-VALVE-SAVER-FLUID-IDEAL-FOR-LPG-DUAL-FUEL-VEHICLES-1litre-FV1L-/291286217065?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d202f169

Or get the kit if you don't want add it yourself every time you fill up!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Flashlube-Valve-Saver-Kit-/231229424978?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d6590552

If Repco and AutoPro are out of stock and you need it in a hurry let me know I'm heading to Karratha on Saturday arriving lunchtime :D


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:14 pm 
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I use this stuff in my race mini , seems to do the job. AVGAS is to hard to get and very expensive.

TETRAETHYL LEADFUEL TREATMENT AND
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http://www.hi-flow.com/HP016aOS.html


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:23 pm 
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Minimadmarty wrote:
Repco or AutoPro in Karratha should stock Flash Lube, if not $26.50 for a litre (which will last forever) with free delivery on eBay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FLASHLUBE-VALVE-SAVER-FLUID-IDEAL-FOR-LPG-DUAL-FUEL-VEHICLES-1litre-FV1L-/291286217065?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d202f169

Or get the kit if you don't want add it yourself every time you fill up!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Flashlube-Valve-Saver-Kit-/231229424978?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d6590552

If Repco and AutoPro are out of stock and you need it in a hurry let me know I'm heading to Karratha on Saturday arriving lunchtime :D


Wow thanks man, I've actually got enough for now. thanks very much for the offer tho. I've heard decent things about the flash lube so if i can get it local i will probably just use that. It ain't no race car! just wanted to make sure I'm keeping it protected.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:49 pm 
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Flashlube is available in 1L bottles (and bigger) from Supercheap and Autobarn etc, , don't buy the tiny little bottles.
I use it because I proved it works. The valves and seats stay shiny.

I also proved (as a trial) that if you recut valves and seats in a 202 head for a daily driver, and then use nothing, the seats will be rooted within 12 months. The red hot valves pulled bits of iron out of the head.... in 6 months. :(

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:50 pm 
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9YaTaH wrote:
Babes wrote:
To be honest I used to run flashlube but after speaking to a few racers and others mini folk who say they have never used any additives I gave up putting it in years ago.


Racers who use ultra clean burning AVGAS or similar? and people who don't use their race cars as daily drivers :?:


People who take their car to the track for fun. I haven't used it in about 10 years and never had a problem.

Flashlube is available at almost every servo so put it in if you feel you need to.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:21 pm 
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69cooper wrote:
I use this stuff in my race mini , seems to do the job. AVGAS is to hard to get and very expensive.

TETRAETHYL LEADFUEL TREATMENT AND
OCTANE BOOSTER*

http://www.hi-flow.com/HP016aOS.html


* It is the only true lead additive available in Australia, all the rest are just a waste of money.

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drmini in aust wrote:
, the seats will be rooted within 12 months. The red hot valves pulled bits of iron out of the head.... in 6 months. :(


Hey Doc, is that Eveleigh Workshops speak for describing automotive engine valve recession :?: :lol:

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69cooper wrote:
AVGAS is to hard to get and very expensive.


Racers are generally rolling in money ( :twisted: ) so they use...100/130 avgas or 100 octane racing fuel...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:50 pm 
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I would imagine also if your racing the temperatures would be wayyyy different to normal road driving on a standard engine. is a way of checking valve condition without disassembly simply just seeing if the clinker holds good compression?

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9YaTaH wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
, the seats will be rooted within 12 months. The red hot valves pulled bits of iron out of the head.... in 6 months. :(


Hey Doc, is that Eveleigh Workshops speak for describing automotive engine valve recession :?: :lol:

Yep it is and I took pics to prove it. I still have the head here...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:49 am 
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you don't need to add lead substitute to Avgas, it already has plenty of lead in it.

I use flashlube, when I pulled the head on my car to replace a gasket, valves and seats looked new.


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