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 Post subject: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Hi guys,
Looking for some advice. I'm looking at buying a 1976 Leyland mini and one of the sellers major points is that is has, "super rare SSA Chrome" wheels and there were only 500 sets made.
I'm not too familiar with minis but I picked up on a few things he was exaggerating on. So are these wheels super rare/ valuable? if so, what would you pay? He even claims he's had people pull him over and ask to buy them straight off the car. I couldn't find them in the mini wheel dictionary but they look like a chrome weller with only 6 spokes

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Just to throw another quest at you, what do they mean when the car is described as an ex baskin and robinson?

Cheers,


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:21 pm 
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Baskin & Robbins make ice cream. Maybe a company car?

The wheels - super rare maybe but does that necessarily make them valuable? I haven't seen them before. Personally I wouldn't think they are particularly valuable.

Average price.. Not sure it's possible to give one based on that level of information. Condition, rust, roadworthyness makes a huge difference to prices. Perhaps have a look at carsales etc for something in similar condition.


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:59 pm 
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look up "folf buggy wheels " on here, yes there rare, I also have had ridiculous offers for my set.

some love them some hate them I haven't had any issues with mine, I have used them in motorkhanas, geneal street driving and a Mallala track day!

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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:55 am 
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Are golf buggy wheels road certified. i know some of their tyres are not.


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:26 am 
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I don't think I've ever seen a set of "certified" Mini wheels....

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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:31 am 
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Thanks for everyones replys. I don't particularly hate them or love them so if anyone in the Central Queensland region who has their heart set, let me know and I can put you in touch with the seller.

Its registered and just had a road worthy, although his mate gave it a "lenient" roadworthy which rings alarm bells for me.

Sorry meant ex Baskin and Robinson, not Robins :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:28 pm 
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I think you made a good decision to hold off...

I went hunting for some information on tyres and wheels and found a tonne on tyres/loads/ rim width etc but only reference to design standards for alloy wheels -- a lot harder to find

So for our aftermarket wheel makers such as CSA etc

The JWL standard (Japan Light Alloy Wheel standard) is a set of requirements for alloy wheels set by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (Japan) that must be met for all passenger cars in Japan. The JWL mark, cast or forged into the wheel, indicates that the wheel has been self-certified by its manufacturer to meet the standard.

so my dunlop D1 reproduction 5x 10wheels purchased from overseas , would comply with a VIA ( vehicle inspection Association>??) o r JWL - JapanLight Wheel Alloy design and have a manufacturers marking (JWL or similar)....( they are at the shed some ways away so i cant check just now

this is for ROAD vehicles.... my comment above was that i am not sure if off road use (agriculture/golf buggy etc) have to comply with say the same weld requirements,

again it is pretty clear when a tyre is not 'approved' - not for highway use or some similar signage is easy to spy... but checking rims seems trickier

it seems this JWL code has been adopted by lots of the rest of the world also ( eg CSA australia)
Darryl


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
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My first thoughts when i read your post was that old mate was spinning you a big crock of sh!t about how good the wheels were , in order to justify the price on the sale of the car .

Secondly it is very hard to depict what a car is worth from 1 pic of the car from a photo that was taken at night , there is certainly a lot of other things to take into account .


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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:18 pm 
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FNQ, I see what you're saying about standards. I've been looking for a manufacturer/ model number to review some of the specifications and see if they comply with any Australian minimum requirements.

Thats what I thought goodie, glad I asked the experts here.
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 Post subject: Re: "Super Rare" wheels
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:39 am 
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FNQ wrote:
I think you made a good decision to hold off...

I went hunting for some information on tyres and wheels and found a tonne on tyres/loads/ rim width etc but only reference to design standards for alloy wheels -- a lot harder to find

So for our aftermarket wheel makers such as CSA etc

The JWL standard (Japan Light Alloy Wheel standard) is a set of requirements for alloy wheels set by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (Japan) that must be met for all passenger cars in Japan. The JWL mark, cast or forged into the wheel, indicates that the wheel has been self-certified by its manufacturer to meet the standard.

so my dunlop D1 reproduction 5x 10wheels purchased from overseas , would comply with a VIA ( vehicle inspection Association>??) o r JWL - JapanLight Wheel Alloy design and have a manufacturers marking (JWL or similar)....( they are at the shed some ways away so i cant check just now

this is for ROAD vehicles.... my comment above was that i am not sure if off road use (agriculture/golf buggy etc) have to comply with say the same weld requirements,

again it is pretty clear when a tyre is not 'approved' - not for highway use or some similar signage is easy to spy... but checking rims seems trickier

it seems this JWL code has been adopted by lots of the rest of the world also ( eg CSA australia)
Darryl


thank you very much... I always wondered what this logo meant. My alloy S copies have it

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