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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:28 pm 
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If it is a 1979 car, it will not be a Personal Import, it will be a Pre-1989 import. https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/import_options/index.aspx

It needs to comply with the rules that applied to a 1979 car delivered new in Australia. A list that is kinda useful, though also fairly crap with regard to detail, is here: https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP10D_LO-2_Second_Ed_ADR_Checklist_V2.0_01Jan2011.pdf

But... did you apply to import it and get an import approval from the Dept for Infrastructure and Regional Development before shipping it here? Or did it just go in the box and arrive here? If you don't have an import approval, it might cause a few issues come rego time.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:39 pm 
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I have the import approval. Wow after that article I'm worried, what a crock of sh##! Instruments need to be in front of the driver? Mine are centre. Reverse lights?! This is going to cost me a bomb, and ruin the look of the car, it looks crap with reverse lights, and now with stupid seat belts in the back too. wow I hope it's not as bad as I think.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:57 pm 
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The instruments are in front of the driver... well, they are not behind the driver are they? :lol:

Seriously, I'm sure that it is not going to be as bad as you are thinking. A reverse light can be a small one hanging under the rear bumper, the rear set belts are not too difficult and a lot of what you want could probably be found on a late Clubman.

The usual ones that are probably the 'must haves' are things like head rests on the front seats, ADR seat belts, side intrusion bars, child restraint anchors in the back, etc. I would expect most people could probably do most of it themselves apart from the intrusion bars.

That check list is possibly the one that the guy checking it will use. VSB 14 is supposed to be the national document for modifications.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:50 am 
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What a crock, how many Aussie cars had side intrusion bars fitted in 1979...and retro-fitting bars to a car never designed to use them can never be elegant or even SAFE engineering....red tape gone mad :!: :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:18 pm 
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Does anyone have photos of side intrusion bars in a door?

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:30 pm 
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What a crock, how many Aussie cars had side intrusion bars fitted in 1979...

If we are talking passenger cars... all of them. ADR 29 - Side Door Strength applied to all passenger cars sold in Australia that were manufactured on or after 1 Jan 1977. https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/29.pdf

Actually, they may not necessarily have 'bars' fitted inside the doors as the side door strength requirement may have been achieved by the door 'as is'. Generally the bar links the hinges with the latch, and in some cases these are the weak points. If the hinges and latch are strong enough to hold the door in tension in the hole it may pass the side door strength requirement.

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and retro-fitting bars to a car never designed to use them can never be elegant or even SAFE engineering....red tape gone mad :!: :roll:

It is certainly safe, or the car is in a side impact anyway, if it is done correctly. That is why it needs to be signed off by a suitably qualified and experienced engineer that is familiar with the ADRs. Granted it is probably difficult to actually 'do' in some doors, particularly doors that are small or that there was never a complying version of, or that have weak hinges or latches or mount points on the body... and unless you can retrofit doors with factory bars easily is probably one of the more difficult compliance hurdles, but in most cases you would not even know they were in there unless you went looking for them.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:43 pm 
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Dubguy wrote:
Does anyone have photos of side intrusion bars in a door?

You need to look inside a 1977 or later Leyland mini door. Many doors (of various makes and models) have little more than a 6" wide corrugated sheet metal panel running the length of the door against the inside of the skin tying the front and rear box sections together.
The engineer will have to work out what is needed for a particular door, but in your case I would expect he will just pretty much replicate what was done in the 1977 and later Australian Mini doors.
I assume the 1979 UK models had the same burst-proof locks the Aussie late cars had, and the UK internal hinges are likely stronger than the earlier external hinges used on the Aussie cars.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:01 pm 
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Hmmmmm I'm having trouble following your conflicting statements and he "Don't listen to what I am saying... just understand what I mean"....I think we should maybe agree to disagree Timmy :lol:

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Here is the NSW info sheet:
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roa ... hicles.pdf

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After the vehicle has cleared Customs, it must be inspected by an authorised examiner at an
Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station (AUVIS – also known to as a ‘blue slip’
station) to determine that it meets the minimum vehicle safety standards, and is in
roadworthy condition.

Above is an extract from the info sheet. If it was me, I'd just book it in for a "blue slip" and see how you go. It's not too expensive ($60.50) , and at least you'll have an idea of what they are going to check for.

The main points that might need changing on your car:
AS approved glass
Kph marked speedo
Head restraints
Seat belts and child seat points

Edit: as far as I can tell, a personal import is always considered a personal import, regardless of the year of the car. Follow this link through:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/quiz/

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:03 pm 
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79... does that make it a Mk III??? And did not the latest (last??) Minis have side impact door beams?? So the worst case may be having to get a pair of late model doors....

Although, usually you only need to comply with current (as in what was needed when the car was built) regulations.

And don't forget that many ADRs actually quote the relevant BS (British Standards ;^) as being compliant.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:31 pm 
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1979 borderline mk4?


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:45 pm 
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Reversing lights can be done fairly easily. Switch in place of reverse detent plunger on gearbox for remote change cars and in the gear extension for rod change, twin filament globe holder in place of single for the existing rear turn indicators and some wire in between.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:30 pm 
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I like the reverse light option, but would the reverse light not be Orange then? Does it not need to be clear lense?

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:37 pm 
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Dubguy wrote:
I like the reverse light option, but would the reverse light not be Orange then? Does it not need to be clear lense?

All Minis here with reversing lights used the orange blinkers. No clear lenses sold here.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:49 pm 
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Dubguy wrote:
I like the reverse light option, but would the reverse light not be Orange then? Does it not need to be clear lense?

For passenger cars built on or after:
1 Jan 1972, the reverse lamps can be amber or white.
Here is 2nd edition ADR 1 - Reverse Lamps: https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/01.pdf

I think it was 1 Oct 1991 where it changed to white only.

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