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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:57 pm 
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I have one of each on my 1968 Mini Deluxe, Australian made. The three screw lens has made in England on it, the two screw has no maufacturer on it. Is my two screw lens original and the England made one not. ???


The change over was mid to late 1967 from the 3 screw UK made to the 2 screw Aust made.
I would say that your car required a new right hand tail light assy and was given the 3 screw type which is easily available. And the 2 screw lens is an aftermarket no name.


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Will they have Lucas Australia on them as like the originals?[/quote]
How can they, legally, if they are not being made by Lucas Australia?[/quote]

I think copyright is only good for 30 years then its any ones who has a mold

Good luck to you know who for remaking them to there quality


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:01 am 
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Will they have Lucas Australia on them as like the originals?

How can they, legally, if they are not being made by Lucas Australia?[/quote]

I think copyright is only good for 30 years then its any ones who has a mold

Good luck to you know who for remaking them to there quality[/quote]

Branding would be the issue, not actually the good being produced.

Just like coca-cola, its well over thirty yrs old, but you cant make stuff with the logo on it.

I don't know if there is a issue or not, I just reckon its great if that person gets it done and has them remade as per original.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:08 am 
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drmini in aust wrote:
You can still buy aftermarket 2 screw lenses, but these are inferior material to the Lucas originals- they go dull and fade quickly.

Someone we all know is in the process of having good quality 2 screw lens made, like the originals. :wink:

Will they have Lucas Australia on them as like the originals?

I have just interrogated the Governments intellectual property database for registered trade marks and the word "Lucas" remains a registered Trade Mark in Australia of Lucas Industries of the UK.

The protection for that trade mark is quite wide and covers five different classes, including lamps and lens. It has been continually protected that way since March 1951. Therefore it would be a clear breach of Lucas' trade mark to remanufacture a taillight lens with the Lucas name on it in any way.

By way of interest, Lucas Industries also have their distinctive oblique chevron device registered as a trade mark in a similar range of classes. That registration is also continuous, however commenced in 1975.

I trust this assists and clears up any doubt about whether such remanufactured lens could carry branding?

Of course one could always write to Lucas and request limited licence to use their trade mark. However, I frankly would be very surprised if they would give that licence given they remain an active business in that area and the reputational and/or product liability issues that could flow? I know if I were advising them I would strongly suggest they do not give such a licence. (... I say that notwithstanding my wish it could happen! I am simply commenting as someone who has practised in that area of law.

Finally, also be wary of using similar branding but slightly changed e.g. Locus, Lucos, etc etc. Whilst not a trade mark issue per se, you could still well find yourselves in bother for "passing off". Whilst I understand such fakery is common in China etc, it is more problematic here because (a) of their legal protections here; and (b) the ease here of legally pursuing a person or entity for intellectual property breaches.

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