The 60 days is in addition the the existing rules. It means you don't have to wait for confirmation on a day book entry before you go out.

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I think Ryan is asking how a current non-official club can become a club capable of issuing historic plates

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For a club based in NSW and not super regional (ie central NSW and further out), I believe it involves the club applying to, and being accepted into the CMC (Council of Motor Clubs of NSW) which gets voted on at a general meeting of the CMC. I don't know what is involved in that any further though, but if you google them; they have a website. For those further out, there is a bush council (which does much the same thing as I understand).

There will be qualifying criteria for the club itself (like length of establishment; status (incorporated etc); whether they have a constitution etc). I can't help on what is involved in establishing a club but perhaps the CMC can advise you. You could perhaps, formalise Mini's in the Gong for example (without knowing exactly what status that "club" is now) and do it that way?

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The CMC has nothing to do with it. That would be the tail wagging the dog.

Only the RMS has the official list of approved clubs.

You first need to incorporate your club to make yourselves a legal entity and then apply to the RMS.

You can email the RMS with such a request via [email protected]

They will step you through the process after that and make sure everything is ticketyboo.

Correct, and there really are some dodgy "clubs" out there...clubs that may be placing the whole scheme in jeopardy by their interpretation/flaunting of simple rules and the privilege of having Concessional Registration.

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Mr PDJ,

No confirmation is required. You only have to notify the Club. What they do with the notification and how quickly they do it is the Club's business. As the owner, you have fulfilled your obligations by providing the notification.

From reports I've heard, some clubs receive that notification and choose to badger the member about it rather than simply writing it up and getting on with their day.

If anything the 60 days allowance gives motorists of clubs with hyper restrictive internal rules some extra freedoms to drive their own cars on their own terms.

For members of clubs which do not seek to enforce arbitrary reinterpretations of the RMS's rules, the 60 day allowance may be unnecessary or redundant.

Hmmm tried to update my knowledge on the scheme via the NSW RMS website...silly boy!

One thing that appears to have changed is kilometres of usage, there used to be an upper limit per annum. I gather now that if you aren't going to exceed your number of days completing your approved trip(s) then kilometres travelled per year is no longer an issue?

and these statements from the RMS website look HELPFUL

NSW historic vehicles may be used temporarily in other States and Territories, under the same conditions as apply in NSW.

Visiting vehicles under a similar scheme in their home State or Territory may be used temporarily in NSW, under the same conditions as apply in their home jurisdiction.

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The so called "dodgy clubs" are probably the ones that are operating closer to the actual written rules than the traditional clubs with their weird interpretations.

In my club I don't have to have black sub-frames to get club plates.

'1071 S' re earlier question, yes, rego would total $568 for 12 months based on 4 x 90 day permits as opposed to $771 for a normal rego (here in vic) so it is a fair bit cheaper. What I am unsure of is, can it be done with one car (I doubt it) but if for example you owned 4 minis each on a club plate and each with 90 days you could do it and save money and I am sure that is why I am seeing individual houses with a lot of old cars parked outside all on club plates. Not sure what the greenies will think with all the old cars being driven around but I think it is wonderful.

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Ummmm...no...the clubs I know of are run by self-centred individuals who think the world owes them a living and are intent on rorting the system

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Thanks Flute, I had a bit of a think and realised I was probably panicking unnecessarilly... I was thinking of a period of 90 consequtive days... I expect its more likely any 90 days in 365.. ie pretty much every weekend in a year (with Christmas off

Actually $568 is within a few beers of my full rego...

Now I'm wondering if I should just keep driving ..or get a good lawyer.... maybe both

Cheers, Ian

Mr PDJ,

No confirmation is required. You only have to notify the Club. What they do with the notification and how quickly they do it is the Club's business. As the owner, you have fulfilled your obligations by providing the notification. .."

Be very careful thomas... The rules say ".....(advice) is received and recorded by the club in the .....Day Book.."

Cheers, Ian

It is a can of worms, how does any club member know if his request is actually recorded in the day book?

That is not incompatible with what I wrote. The notification is received and then it is up to the Club to do the right thing with that information in a timely manner.

The governance of the club is not the responsibility of each member.

But what do I know? It seems every one is an expert.

My view, and the view of my fellow members, is that the Club should not seek to arbitrarily limit the use of a car by its owner through the use of pointless internal bureaucracies and unnecessary, club-created regulations.

I think that this whole discussion is just based on these two points.
Do I put a car on club plates to save money? .......Yes/No
Will I follow the rules? be it club historic rules or RMS historic rules or both. Yes/No

If you answered No! to either of these questions then pay the money, put it on full rego, move on and enjoy your Mini.

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